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SOLUTIONS to reduce hackers

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  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    edited August 2017
    Roni777 wrote: »
    @Petal. Yes. But we don't have a map where players can go to meet standby GM when we find a hacker. and we can report it at the same time. So that GM can receive the report in game and directly go to the map and ban the player. We need a in-game map where players can go there to meet standby Gm so GM can do immediate reaction to it.

    The step to produce :
    1. A player see a hacker
    2. A player go to any city, click Dimension Portal - GM Map
    3. Player will meet a GM and tell which map and which channel plus the hacker name.
    4. Gm go there and see whether the report is true or not
    5. If the report is true, GM will ban the hacker. If it is not true, the player will not be able to enter the GM map for 1-3 days.

    the only problem with this is the GM to player ratio. Not enough time in a day to address all the reports. And not enough GMs hired to carry out the reports
  • xparasite9xparasite9
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    edited August 2017
    they just need to make captchas that can't be bypassed and that will cut out 90% of the problem. the rest can be handled by humans
  • JushiroNetJushiroNet
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    edited August 2017
    First off they're not "Hackers" just because they bought a trainer doesn't make them a "Hacker" not even remotely close, People who don't understand the correct technical names for stuff easily label things they see as to what they think it is.
    It's like someone who buyers a "Aimbot" they're not a "Hacker" they're someone who lacks the ability to write their own exploits and programs on their own and they're doing it to impress people who know them or see them.

    Easy way to get raid of them is don't support them, don't buy any of their stuff when they have no one to buy their stuff they lose a reason to bot because they do it to make money and people who buy their elite boss drops are supporting the demand for them to stay botting.

    Buying their mesos and buying their drops is why they will keep botting.

    GRAZED Mu Lung and Herb Town maps are covered in botters.

    All you need to do is get a Hyper Rock go to Mu Lung or Herb Town sit in a map for 5 minutes watching the World Map for Mu Lung or Herb Town and when the Elite Boss spawns you can see if in the World Map.

    Also they have a cheat that knows when GM's are online and when a GM logs in to that world the program kicks the botter offline till the GM logs off it's $100 more a month feature though for the bot.

    In the context of gaming, a hacker is someone who uses hacks. They may be a hack themselves who couldn't write hello world but they're still a hacker.
  • Roni777Roni777
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    edited August 2017
    @MatthewHKnight
    If what matthew say is correct, it means that GM mostlikely won't see any hackers coz everytime they online, most hackers will automatically get logged off.
    For GM to prove whether this is true or not is simple. GM only need 2 computer.1 login on GM account while the others as Non GM. Try find several hackers and check whether when GM try login into the GM account/char, the hacker will dissapear or not. If a lot of hacker dissapear, mostlikely this is true.

    If this is happening, there is almost zero chance for GM to catch a hacker. Most of players report about hacker will be useless coz GM will not be able catch a hacker because they will automatically get logged of by their hack as soon as it reads that GM is online.

    Bought a trainer? Do you mean pay a hacker to train/levelling them? If this is what you mean, i would say someone who buys it also a hacker. Same as if you are asking a thief to steal / rob other peoples, it means we are also a thief. If we are buying stolen items, doesn't it means that we are also a thief? So if we ask others to hack for us, it is the same means as we are hacking.

    Someone who use hack is a hacker. Someone who create the hack is the hack programmer or you can call hack creator. Someone who play a game called gamer eventhough they can't make the game. And someone who create the game is called Game Programmer. ;o

    Hmm asking players to stop buying is actually good idea. It is just not everyone cares whether there are hackers or not. Though, Some people who have dollars but they can only play like 1-2 hours a day, mostlikely will just use their dollars to buy what they want. Mostlikely they don't care whether hacker exist or not. They just want to be good. But yeah, if more and more players stop buying, eventually there will be less and less hacker. Especially if they demand becomes very low that it will just be a loss for them to hack.
  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    edited August 2017
    JushiroNet wrote: »
    In the context of gaming, a hacker is someone who uses hacks. They may be a hack themselves who couldn't write hello world but they're still a hacker.


    You're wrong my friend,
    In programming and hacking culture, a script kiddie or skiddie is an unskilled individual who uses scripts or programs developed by others to attack computer systems and networks and deface websites. It is generally assumed that script kiddies are juveniles who lack the ability to write sophisticated programs or exploits on their own and that their objective is to try to impress their friends or gain credit in computer-enthusiast communities.

    As for GM detection:
    Question: What is the GM license? What does it do for me?

    Answer: This license is for a real-time 24/7 Game Master monitoring add-on to [REMOVED BOT NAME] program to allow for a worry-free botting experience by tracking all Game Masters. The GM license add-on is different from the built in GM map detection inside of normal [REMOVED BOT NAME]. This add-on detects all (if) any Game Masters are online at any given time and will safely protect your account when a GM is online by securely logging your character out and resume botting when all Game Masters are offline. This add-on is highly recommended if you are botting to level 250 or farming on valuable accounts.

    I'm not sure if their is something working at Nexon or worked at Nexon that is leaking intel within Nexon or what but Interesting how they know when a GM is online.

    He's right, hackers in the cyberworld is different than "hackers" in gaming. In gaming hackers are just people that use the third party programs that were already created by real hackers/people with knowledge of code. to put it simply, a hacker in a game most likely cant hack to save their life, but a real hacker could if they wanted to write up a program to bypass restrictions for a game. People just call them "hackers" because the programs they use "hack" the system in the game. In other words, theres no real name for those that use these programs.
  • CatoooloooCatooolooo
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    edited August 2017
    JushiroNet wrote: »
    In the context of gaming, a hacker is someone who uses hacks. They may be a hack themselves who couldn't write hello world but they're still a hacker.


    You're wrong my friend,
    In programming and hacking culture, a script kiddie or skiddie is an unskilled individual who uses scripts or programs developed by others to attack computer systems and networks and deface websites. It is generally assumed that script kiddies are juveniles who lack the ability to write sophisticated programs or exploits on their own and that their objective is to try to impress their friends or gain credit in computer-enthusiast communities.

    As for GM detection:
    Question: What is the GM license? What does it do for me?

    Answer: This license is for a real-time 24/7 Game Master monitoring add-on to [REMOVED BOT NAME] program to allow for a worry-free botting experience by tracking all Game Masters. The GM license add-on is different from the built in GM map detection inside of normal [REMOVED BOT NAME]. This add-on detects all (if) any Game Masters are online at any given time and will safely protect your account when a GM is online by securely logging your character out and resume botting when all Game Masters are offline. This add-on is highly recommended if you are botting to level 250 or farming on valuable accounts.

    I'm not sure if their is something working at Nexon or worked at Nexon that is leaking intel within Nexon or what but Interesting how they know when a GM is online.

    He's right, hackers in the cyberworld is different than "hackers" in gaming. In gaming hackers are just people that use the third party programs that were already created by real hackers/people with knowledge of code. to put it simply, a hacker in a game most likely cant hack to save their life, but a real hacker could if they wanted to write up a program to bypass restrictions for a game. People just call them "hackers" because the programs they use "hack" the system in the game. In other words, theres no real name for those that use these programs.

    well there is.. they are script kiddies, but the termanollogy is just arguing semantics cause in the end we are talking about ruining both the hackers that up-keep the hacking program, and those that profit off using it in game (the botters).
  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    edited August 2017
    Catooolooo wrote: »
    JushiroNet wrote: »
    In the context of gaming, a hacker is someone who uses hacks. They may be a hack themselves who couldn't write hello world but they're still a hacker.


    You're wrong my friend,
    In programming and hacking culture, a script kiddie or skiddie is an unskilled individual who uses scripts or programs developed by others to attack computer systems and networks and deface websites. It is generally assumed that script kiddies are juveniles who lack the ability to write sophisticated programs or exploits on their own and that their objective is to try to impress their friends or gain credit in computer-enthusiast communities.

    As for GM detection:
    Question: What is the GM license? What does it do for me?

    Answer: This license is for a real-time 24/7 Game Master monitoring add-on to [REMOVED BOT NAME] program to allow for a worry-free botting experience by tracking all Game Masters. The GM license add-on is different from the built in GM map detection inside of normal [REMOVED BOT NAME]. This add-on detects all (if) any Game Masters are online at any given time and will safely protect your account when a GM is online by securely logging your character out and resume botting when all Game Masters are offline. This add-on is highly recommended if you are botting to level 250 or farming on valuable accounts.

    I'm not sure if their is something working at Nexon or worked at Nexon that is leaking intel within Nexon or what but Interesting how they know when a GM is online.

    He's right, hackers in the cyberworld is different than "hackers" in gaming. In gaming hackers are just people that use the third party programs that were already created by real hackers/people with knowledge of code. to put it simply, a hacker in a game most likely cant hack to save their life, but a real hacker could if they wanted to write up a program to bypass restrictions for a game. People just call them "hackers" because the programs they use "hack" the system in the game. In other words, theres no real name for those that use these programs.

    well there is.. they are script kiddies, but the termanollogy is just arguing semantics cause in the end we are talking about ruining both the hackers that up-keep the hacking program, and those that profit off using it in game (the botters).

    gotcha