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Belgian Reboot Players Affected by Recent Change

MyrMyr
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edited February 2019 in General Chat
Recently Nexon removed cubes, circulators etc from Belgian players in the Cash Shop which is understandable due to gambling law. But they removed red cubes and circulators in the Cash Shop from Belgian Reboot players too. I do not think this is fair because there is no real life currency involved with these on Reboot. I don't think they should've been removed. Please bring them back for Belgian players on Reboot worlds.

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  • AKradianAKradian
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    edited February 2019
    They removed Red cubes but not Black?
    Is it the same in non-Reboot?
  • MyrMyr
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    edited February 2019
    Can't check, as I don't reside in Belgium. This thread on Reddit talks about the problem. https://www.reddit.com/r/Maplestory/comments/aquo5j/removal_of_redcubes_for_reboot/
  • ScormsScorms
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    Thank you for making this post !

    They deleted the cubes in CS and circulators in reboot too .
  • DaddieDaveDaddieDave
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    Idd, i understand that they delete the nx required cubes. But I am a belgian reboot player and i cant gamble with real money here since cubes cost mesos.. but still i cant buy em.. this is making me have to quit maple since I cannot progress any more now.. I didnt care about nx clothing boxes get deleted but at least let is still play the game..
    darik
  • ScormsScorms
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    edited February 2019
    They just applied the restriction from normal world also on Reboot . But we all know , in Reboot you can buy Cubes and other stuff with mesos . In their statement they said "items with an element of chance that are acquired with either real money or virtual currency purchased with real money" . in reboot we buy cubes and circulators with mesos . This is clearly not an currency obtained with real money
    DaddieDavePacoARKsSlicedTime
  • DaddieDaveDaddieDave
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    edited February 2019
    Its still possible to buy master craft cubes in npc potion shops , the should just place red and black ones in there aswell.. I really hope this gets fixed or i have to find myself a new game ... :/
  • PacoARKsPacoARKs
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    edited February 2019
    In theory reboot belgians players shouldn't have this problems according to nexon's restrictions. So this problem is clearly a mistake...
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited February 2019
    PacoARKs wrote: »
    In theory reboot belgians players shouldn't have this problems according to nexon's restrictions. So this problem is clearly a mistake...

    More than likely it was a blanket-removal of everything, but one that mistakenly encompassed reboot. According to Ghiblee on reddit, they've gotten several messages concerning this and they're looking into it.
    FuhreakDaddieDaveSlicedTime
  • DaddieDaveDaddieDave
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    edited February 2019
    Good to read this! I hope everything will be fixed
  • darikdarik
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    edited February 2019
    PacoARKs wrote: »
    In theory reboot belgians players shouldn't have this problems according to nexon's restrictions. So this problem is clearly a mistake...

    Its not a mistake, savage ace mentioned in the stream Q&A that it was intended,but that theyll try to do something about it.
    DaddieDave
  • WONDERGUYWONDERGUY
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    edited February 2019
    loooooooooooool reboot aswell
    hehehehehehehe
    omg nexon stop be stubborn with that system change it allready
    country by country lock? lol

    look even EA started to make changes (who could imagine) look at APEX legends
    darik
  • DaddieDaveDaddieDave
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    edited February 2019
    any more news on if it will get fixed?
  • QwemkeQwemke
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    edited February 2019
    I've send several tickets to nexon, and they clearly stated that this was intended! When I explained reboot status they send me this....
    We really understand that enforcing the Belgian gambling legislation affect your activities as well as your usual stuff in-game. As a player, we share the sympathy and frustration on what you are going through right now. I know that there will be a lot of adjustment you will take in order to adapt this changes. However, we are unable to lift or remove it in game as we decided to take proactive measures about this. 
    After 13 years I am done with this game!
    Thanks for the ride guys and goodluck..
    WONDERGUY
  • QwemkeQwemke
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    edited February 2019
    Belgian... hypocrites! loot boxes are a no go.
    But everynight on tv there's this casino royale. On television... probably isn't concsiderd gambling enough...
    Ithink it is time for emiggration to America. Zzzzz
    R.i.p
    Belgian maplers
  • darikdarik
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    edited February 2019
    Qwemke wrote: »
    I've send several tickets to nexon, and they clearly stated that this was intended! When I explained reboot status they send me this....
    We really understand that enforcing the Belgian gambling legislation affect your activities as well as your usual stuff in-game. As a player, we share the sympathy and frustration on what you are going through right now. I know that there will be a lot of adjustment you will take in order to adapt this changes. However, we are unable to lift or remove it in game as we decided to take proactive measures about this. 
    After 13 years I am done with this game!
    Thanks for the ride guys and goodluck..

    Well what can they do man, the law is the law.
  • DaddieDaveDaddieDave
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    edited February 2019
    The law states in game currency bought with real money cant be used... you cant do that in reboot so why they dont just change it .. They really dont care about their gamers?
    WONDERGUY
  • darikdarik
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    edited February 2019
    DaddieDave wrote: »
    The law states in game currency bought with real money cant be used... you cant do that in reboot so why they dont just change it .. They really dont care about their gamers?

    Even if u dont pay real money for it is still a gambling feature which damages kids brains.
  • DaddieDaveDaddieDave
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    edited February 2019
    Then they should ban every game even monopoly cause throwing dice is also gambling.. Its in game currency who cares.. I just want to play this game.. people just have to educate their kids properly.. I rally hope reboot gets its cubess back..
    Qwemke
  • WONDERGUYWONDERGUY
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    edited February 2019
    Qwemke wrote: »
    Belgian... hypocrites! loot boxes are a no go.
    But everynight on tv there's this casino royale. On television... probably isn't concsiderd gambling enough...
    Ithink it is time for emiggration to America. Zzzzz
    R.i.p
    Belgian maplers

    ..... they dont ban gambling... its regulations like age restriction,tax $$, fair use and other stuff
    so sad to even try compare casinos to maple (like nexon dose for years unregulated )
    its not belgium only its much more so good luck moveout (washington allready signed same as belgium so care were you go ...)
    in fact if you want gamble
    tell nexon to promote maple as its designed if not then tell them to change to mapleCASINOstory $$

    its so sad how they think they can make war with regulations and force kids to gamble $$
    maybe new company will do better
    for now untill nexon gets sold we got no other options
  • WONDERGUYWONDERGUY
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    edited February 2019
    The legal status of loot boxes in other regions

    The Netherlands and Belgium

    The most publicized rulings of 2018 came in April, when The Netherlands and Belgium determined that some, but not all, loot boxes violated their laws on gambling. Notably, there was no “loot box law” passed in either of these countries. It was merely determined that these games were in violation of existing gambling laws. EA continues to dispute this ruling, claiming to “welcome the dialogue” with European regulators, but Wilson asserted on a May earnings call that they will “continue to push forward” with loot boxes.

    Last month, Belgian prosecutors launched an official investigation to determine if EA is engaged in illegal activity. Meanwhile, 2K has encouraged Belgian customers to contact local authorities about the legal status of NBA 2K’s loot boxes in Belgium, maintaining the stance that some tweaks were made to that game’s real money purchases that should assure compliance.

    Blizzard, on the other hand, has elected to remove the ability to buy loot boxes with real money for Overwatch and Heroes of the Storm in Belgium to be in compliance.

    China and South Korea

    In China and South Korea, it is already required that any developer selling loot boxes in their games must disclose the probabilities of receiving any given reward. In 2017, China passed a harsher law that outlawed virtual “lottery tickets,” leading Blizzard to remove the ability to buy Overwatch loot boxes with real money in that region—though they do somewhat cheekily get around it by offering loot boxes as a “free gift” when you purchase non-randomized in-game currency with real money.

    Australia

    In Australia, which has notoriously tough regulations on electronic gaming, a 2018 investigation led a committee to find loot boxes are psychologically similar to gambling, especially to young people. It recommends that games with loot boxes carry a warning label (the ESRB already does this in North America with their “In-Game Purchases” warning that came into use in February—and they asserted just this month that they do not believe loot boxes are gambling), and have their sale restricted only to people over the legal gambling age of 18. These recommendations have not yet been codified into legislation.

    The UK

    The UK has opted to let industry self-regulation handle the issue, with Conservative Minister of State MP Margot James expressing trust that organizations like PEGI will “[speak] to the industry to ensure that those who purchase and play video games are informed and protected." Elsewhere in the EU, aside from the aforementioned Netherlands and Belgium, no significant action against loot boxes has been taken so far. Right across the border in France, a gambling regulating body determined in July that loot boxes were not legally a form of gambling.

    source : https://www.pcgamer.com/the-legal-status-of-loot-boxes-around-the-world-and-whats-next/