HuskyDM

Aggraphine wrote: »

HHG1 wrote: »

Take a moment to consider that we got additional power creep with this patch; familiars with potential. Fairly easy to get, and very powerful bonuses.
Also consider that the gollux shop now restocks weekly and lets you buy every accessory instead of relying on RNG.
You'll be just fine waiting a bit longer to get end-game gear. I think it's a fair trade-off.

Consider alongside the bolded point that I've heard people gripe about doing hellux for weeks, more than a month, and still not having a superior belt or pendant drop. If you still don't get a drop after weeks and weeks of doing the boss, you'll have enough coins to simply buy it instead of just being up a creek.

Not everyone is a P2W to do Hellux alone, Gollux doesn't give instanced rewards so someone in the party is getting nothing. Its still around 30 coins pero Hellux, which is only one Superior item per month without the Gollux scrolls, on a Daily boss the level of Lotus and Damien.

CRA takes 1 day to get 2 BiS items.
In 1 month you already have most of Absolab, and you don´t have to boss everyday for it.

I've said it in another post but it fits here too.
It takes a single day to get the CRA tops and bottom, both BiS items, and CRA is a once a week affair.
It takes 1 month of DAILY grind per Superior item, thats 4 months for each individual item, 5 for double pendant, and 6+ to have them all fully scrolled with the 60% Gollux Scrolls.

Not even KMS makes you grind that awful for meta equips. Gollux doesn't even follow the game's own source of truth.

Micalicious wrote: »

It's almost like nobody at nexon understands or plays their own game.

Familiar system has some good aspects, but overall is a net negative for the players.
Gollux was a huge failure. All they need to do was add in restocking to the shop and call it a day.

I'm honestly impressed that nexon can continue to fail so hard.

And both of those are Overseas Maple content, not KMS. Its someone in SEA, JMS or Global messing up royally.

Fuhreak wrote: »

Arcane Symbols have entered the chat.

I'll give you the one month, maybe that's overkill. But I still think that the best items should be locked behind a boss of that level.
You should have to work for items that stay with you for such a long time like that. Maybe lower the time it takes to get an item, but keep the boss around the same level.
Just my two cents.

Arcane Symbols and the Arcane River are also ridiculous. A month long grind should be reserved for a big extra boss. Even subscription MMOs like FFXIV won't ask you to play a month or more to advance in the plot. Arcane Symbols at least have several levels in upgrades so you can remain with a level 8/10 symbol and still do good. I still think Gollux should be nerfed to a inbetween CRA and Lotus, a Lotus is something very little people, specially outside Reboot are able to do consistently, even in parties. Besides the only truly BiS Gollux item was the superior ring, everything else got replaced with the Arcane River boss sets.

Edit: Adding some stuff I thought about a while ago that also makes this Gollux buff even more ridiculous.
Empress: Takes a month to get a weapon, 5 weeks to get the full armor. You only fight her ONCE per week and she has the BiS shields for shield users.
CRA: Takes 1 month to get the weapon, 1 day to get the full armor. CRA tops and bottoms have been BiS since 2012, also ONCE a week bosses.
Magnus: Stupidly annoying but beatable. Drops the Tyrant Cape, might take you several tries to get the one you want. Tyrant Cape competes with current capes still, since 2012. Hard Magnus is a ONCE a week boss.

Empress, Magnus and CRA are easier than New Gollux. All of these bosses drop BiS items. All of these bosses are fought once a week, and in a single day give BiS items.

Lotus/Damien: Once a Week bosses, Second best set in game yet CRA still beats its overalls. Doesn't take one month per piece.
New Gollux: Only BiS items are the ring and earrings, the belt and pendant are replaced by the Arcane River bosses accessories. Ring and earrings aren't as powerful as CRA top-bottom potentials and stats which take less time/effort to get. Takes as much time to beat as Lotus/Damien. Its a DAILY boss, takes one month for one superior item without enhancement. 5 months for all the set, 6+ for scrolls and stars.

So having a few BiS items isn't neither indicative of the time it takes, nor the difficulty of the bosses they drop from. Being carried in CRA or Magnus ONCE, one single day already gives anyone 4 high stats, still meta competitive items, since Tempest in 2012. 6+ months or more of daily Gollux grind for any character who wants to try higher end stuff is ridiculous no matter what anyone says.

Fuhreak wrote: »

HuskyDM wrote: »

Fuhreak wrote: »

It's an MMO. It's not supposed to be fast paced. Time gates exist as a method to give players something to always strive for.
They're a required part of MMOs, get used to it.

True but a month is a bit excessive, and doesn't justify turning Gollux into a Lotus for no reason. I can understand making it more of a 180 boss, a thing closer to CRA, but if its true that it even 16mil characters can't dent him, and that the rewards remain the same despite the godly buff Hellux got, then its not really good. With CRA, Lotusmien, and the Arcane River Grind, we got way too much unreachable and time consuming stuff to "strive for" in MapleStory, even when compared to other MMOs.

I don't think it is. Look at the items that Gollux gives. These are some of the best items in the game. You will never replace them.
I think it's mostly just a knee jerk reaction to how easy he used to be compared to the fact that the boss actually matches the drops now.
If he had always been this way, players would be fine with it. The problems comes from the fact that he wasn't always like this, giving old players advantage.
I think this too, will die down over time and players will be okay with it after all the dust settles.

The ones who are to invested to leave may, and others just won't try it. Gollux was fine the way it was, being a gateway to harder content. The jump between Empress and CRA is way too deep, and again, a month out of everyone's life is way too much time to ask for a single clean accessory.