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Msea is merging a big alliance of theirs and seem to have the kinks more or less figured out.
http://www.maplesea.com/news/view/v185_draco/

Fuhreak wrote: »

While rankings is being made such a big deal about, I'd like to suggest that the guild rankings are added to the website.
Those are actually in the game itself, why aren't they displayed on the website, too?

Another reason to implement KMS rankings. They have a page for guild ranks.

My thread on this was removed yesterday due to some issue with the comment(s) to it, so I'll use large parts of that to reply to this instead which is why it may come off "preachy" like an OP post would. I also made some clarifications that stemmed from the previous thread.

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With the level cap increase the race is now on. However, the race is on between Reboot and regular servers because the rankings allow it to be. The default view for our rankings is the "Both" tab, and when searching individual players, the number next to them is also their spot in the "Both" ranking, and not from whichever server-type they play.

"Both" should not be the default option, it should not be an option at all.
Reboot and regular servers have vastly different opportunities, and progress differently. Reboot has a native higher EXP rate than regular servers, and regular servers cannot use 2x coupons past 250 for the race. We can argue all day about which is really faster, about higher mob HP and frenzy availability, about funding routes, about hackers bypassing all this, but in the end the sole fact that they're different should be enough reason.
There should not be a "Reboot vs regular server" race, because they are not racing together under the same circumstances. The servers are different, and should not be racing against each other on the same ranking page.

The idea that they should be competing against each other is supported by the fact that the "Both" ranking is available. And so far I have only seen screenshots from the "Both" rankings used to display the progress of the race. This is what people are going by, and it's an incorrect depiction of reality.
While separating the rankings wouldn't stop the argument entirely, it would make a clear case that they are different and should be compared as such, and not on the same board. I think it would help decrease the toxicity that's been seen between the two playerbases.
It's not about which server is faster. It's about which player is faster within which realm of possibility. That is what the rankings are.

I propose we have the KMS ranking system implemented instead.

As you can see it entirely separates Reboot and regular servers into two different brackets of their own, while including more information such as job advancement (you could search for top perma-assassins for example), fame and guild in the same entry for characters.
And if you click other worlds it repeats your job specification if you made any.
I really encourage you to go there (right click translate page) and play around with it. It's much more user friendly, streamlined and informative.

If there are concerns about which server to make default, you could always make the main page only display these options and load the rankings after you've picked Reboot or regular.
If I'm really nitpicking I also don't think regular servers should be labelled as "non-reboot". It's like listing "coffee" as "non-latte" on a menu. I understand that the community often refers to it as non-reboot so I can concede this point, but in my opinion the regular server option shouldn't just be "not the other thing".

They do have a Hall of Fame page where every new 275 gets their spotlight since it's reverse chronological order sorted by the date they got to 275. (non-275 ones are assumed to be by the date they got to 250)
If you really care about seeing Reboot vs regular you could scroll back through that, but again it's not the default.

It may be tricky to implement, seeing as we have Europe rankings to consider as well. But I believe it's important, and I believe it is worth it.

I've personally gotten Protection Scrolls from emobs before, and you yourself said the sources you provided were reliable so I'd assume the items listed there are correct since all the others are. Perhaps you're just unlucky.

Whether grammatically correct or not, if someone says "Zakum mobs" anyone would assume it's the mobs that are spawned during Zakum or in relation to Zakum and not the boss itself. I believe that is what OP was getting at with "elite boss mobs" as opposed to just saying "elite bosses". Since the issue is already known, I believe Nexon is able to read between the lines as I have.

If you worry about the bug report not being precise or grammatically correct enough you can always submit your own post here with the details you feel are lacking instead of nitpicking others to no end despite it being obvious what they're trying to convey.

YinYangX wrote: »

QuickDrawer wrote: »

no your wrong they changed that, elite monsters drop protection scrolls now, and elite bosses don't, and crowning is correct emobs have stopped dropping them for a while now

Jw, are you sure you're not thinking about blue Shield Scrolls? Since when have Elite Monsters dropped brown Protection Scrolls?
Can you show me at least one source / pictures showing this if you actually meant what you said and aren't mistaken?
Both the sources I listed are pretty reliable and accurate (pre. v200, to my knowledge).

And no, he has been saying that the problem is Elite Bosses. He has yet to clarify/correct himself to saying Elite Monsters.

He did say "elite boss mobs" while referencing the cubic blades, but yes the original report is more of a blanket statement.
And that reddit guide you linked includes Protection Scroll under Elite Monster rewards.

Q : What do I get from Elite Monsters?

A: All the possible drops of the normal monster, medal of honor (even if out of level range), potions, clean slate 5%, golden hammer 50%, cubic blade, cubic chaos blade, safety scroll, protection scroll, innocence scroll 50%, master craftsman's cube. These are instanced drops for anyone who attacks the elite monster (if you attack it, you get your own drops that no one else can see).

Regardless, this has been brought up before and Arwoo confirmed it's not an intentional change.