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Remove Unobtainable Items from Reboot Drops

ClawStaffClawStaff
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edited October 2016 in Suggestions, Feedback, and Requests
Now I know the GMS staff would most likely wait for KMS to do this first before considering it, but I'll suggest it anyway. In Reboot there are certain times you will get absolutely no drop, simply because the items removed from Reboot still hog a possible drop slot.

This usually results from any kind of box or random content completion reward. What I am suggesting is that these possible (but yet not possible) drops be completely removed from Reboot. It simply wastes runs of bosses and content when you get a"no drop."

Im not suggesting to make it impossible for nothing to be dropped from this kind of content, but to simply remove irrelevant %drop chances.

One of the probably most infamous cases of this is Hilla's pet box. Hilla's box usually doesn't actually contain nothing, it's just it wants to give you an item that it can't.

(I added the poll because I think it fits with suggestions, plus I also wanted the badge thing lol)
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  • AKradianAKradian
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    edited October 2016
    Generally speaking, when a box tries to give you something that doesn't exist in Reboot (such as scrolls) it gives you a meso bag instead.
    Only "empty boxes" I know of are the Sealed Cubic Blades, that always give nothing.
    Please give specific examples of "empty boxes"?
    As far as I know, Hilla's pet box always gives either Blackheart (pet) or Blackheart Earrings (pet equip), in both Reboot and non-Reboot. Then again, I haven't gotten enough of them for a representative sample :/


  • ClawStaffClawStaff
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    edited October 2016
    One I know for certain is Ani's box (LKC). I haven't confirmed Hilla's myself, but I have heard people say they got empty boxes.

    I know I did some other things that gave nothing, not even a meso sack though, I just can't remember what, probably some theme dungeon.
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited October 2016
    Ani's box gives scrolls outside of Reboot. Would explain why that's empty.

    And hey, rather than this suggestion, how about they remove all of the unnecessary duplicates of things from the game? You know, like the half-dozen or so power elixirs, all but one of which are untradeable? Yeah, remove all but the tradeable ones. Same goes for every other consumable item of the sort. I suppose untradeable sunset dew and reindeer milk can stay, since they need some kind of trash to take up most of an event box's % chance of getting items.

    Other than that, we do not need multiples and multiple untradeable versions of various items.
  • ClawStaffClawStaff
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    edited October 2016
    @Aggraphine I do agree that untradable versions of use items (that also have tradable versions) are kind of silly.

    I wish they at least retained their price so you could NPC them, otherwise they pretty much waste space.

    Also things being empty is the entire premise of this post, I want the percentage chances to be completely removed from those items, since they don't exist in Reboot.

    I came up with this, because Ani's box would be the fastest way to get potential scrolls (in Reboot) without these imaginary items. Sure it takes effort to get there, but it would be an infinite source of potential scrolls.

    It would give LKC some insentive to be done, since the quests to fight Ani are the same ones that unlock Von Leon.

    As I said though that was what made me really realize how much empty items hinder drops in Reboot. It would also be useful for other content like this to have the item %s removed.
  • AKradianAKradian
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    edited October 2016
    ClawStaff
    ClawStaff said:

    @Aggraphine I do agree that untradable versions of use items (that also have tradable versions) are kind of silly.

    I wish they at least retained their price so you could NPC them, otherwise they pretty much waste space.

    Also things being empty is the entire premise of this post, I want the percentage chances to be completely removed from those items, since they don't exist in Reboot.
    You need to remember that Reboot is something of a minimal-effort "alternative" server.
    The reason Supreme failed, and one reason Nexon is so reluctant to make a Legacy server, is that those are completely different from normal MapleStory. Different server, different client, different code that needs to be maintained by a different team. It's a whole 'nother game to publish and support. Like Mabinogi or Dragon's Nest.
    Reboot, on the other hand, is the same code, for client and server, as the normal servers. Just a few flags that control the few different - mostly disabled - features. This is much much easier to maintain.
    One of the things they did was the global "scroll -> meso bag" thing. It saved them having to go through every drop table and event box and change them. I don't know why sometimes the boxes are empty, and personally I'd log a Bug Report if I found one, since it's not supposed to happen. Asking them to look at every random-reward box in the game and recalculate a different % for all items in it, is unrealistic.
  • PetalmagicPetalmagic
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    edited October 2016
    I wish they would remove some of the drops such as the Time Watch from old Neo City...and the dang Cubic Blades, and old Monster Park Tickets...=3=
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited October 2016
    Cubic blades can be sold to an NPC for a bit of mesos on Reboot, I think. So they're not entirely worthless. Monster Park ticket pieces seem to only drop in non-KMS maps yet.
  • AKradianAKradian
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    edited October 2016
    Aggraphine

    Cubic blades can be sold to an NPC for a bit of mesos on Reboot, I think. So they're not entirely worthless. Monster Park ticket pieces seem to only drop in non-KMS maps yet.
    Cubic Blades do not exist on Reboot.
    Sealed Cubic Blades NPC for 1 meso. If you open them they're empty.
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited October 2016
    AKradian
    AKradian said:

    Aggraphine

    Cubic blades can be sold to an NPC for a bit of mesos on Reboot, I think. So they're not entirely worthless. Monster Park ticket pieces seem to only drop in non-KMS maps yet.
    Cubic Blades do not exist on Reboot.
    Sealed Cubic Blades NPC for 1 meso. If you open them they're empty.
    Really? I thought they were still there, but could be sold to an NPC for like 5-8m. Well, don't mind me then.