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Why are reboot re:zero boxes 500 MIL???

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Hello? Why are they so expensive? in what universe does 4k nx equal 500 mil mesos? why not follow the precedents set by things like cubes and circulators? I don't understand why you would make the ratio this unfair for just one item
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  • AKradianAKradian
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    edited May 2017
    Two possible reasons:

    1. It's Nexon's subtle way of encouraging Rebooters to choose the NX option.
    2. It's a typo. Was meant to be 50m for one and 500m for a pack of 11, but the person writing the notice kind of skipped a line.

    We'll find out when Nexon wakes up.
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  • peremecperemec
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    If it was for a pack for 11 then I would have no problem, I really hope it's just a typo, because it's unimaginable for anyone to think this would be a good idea at 500m for 1 box.
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  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    you cant expect a quality item to be 50mil, 500mil for the boxes is fair enough. AKradian even said in another post, if you want the good items youll have to farm mesos, if you dont want to then dont expect to have good items. hyper rocks expire so thats whytheyre cheap, circulators arent even in the tier of these limited time items.

    First people say they should cost mesos, now they complain theyre too expensive.
  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    edited May 2017
    peremec wrote: »
    Hello? Why are they so expensive? in what universe does 4k nx equal 500 mil mesos? why not follow the precedents set by things like cubes and circulators? I don't understand why you would make the ratio this unfair for just one item

    even if it's illegal, in windia people buy nx 1k for 350, so id say 500mil for 4k is a discount with those rates
  • peremecperemec
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    peremec wrote: »
    Hello? Why are they so expensive? in what universe does 4k nx equal 500 mil mesos? why not follow the precedents set by things like cubes and circulators? I don't understand why you would make the ratio this unfair for just one item

    even if it's illegal, in windia people buy nx 1k for 350, so id say 500mil for 4k is a discount with those rates

    You do realize mesos are worthless in windia because of all the hackers and meso farmers who ruined the economy right? There are no meso farmers or trading in reboot so I don't know how or why you thought comparing a p2w server whose economy has been ruined for years to a non trading server would be a good idea. You know why people buy nx for 350m per k? because you can get over a bil for like 2 US dollars from illegal meso sites.

    Nexon has already set a precedent with NX to meso through cubes and circulators, where it is around 10m for 1k nx. If you're gonna make a 4k nx item 500m you might as well make the cubes and circulators 200 mil each, right? It's absolutely hilarious that you are comparing meso rates in WINDIA, the server most infested with hackers, to a server with absolutely no trading, it painfully obvious you have 0 clue what you're talking about. Unfortunately buddy unlike you guys in Windia we in reboot can't just go on xxxmesoseller420xD.com and buy 10bil for $20.
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  • KushyDragonKushyDragon
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    edited May 2017
    peremec wrote: »
    peremec wrote: »
    Hello? Why are they so expensive? in what universe does 4k nx equal 500 mil mesos? why not follow the precedents set by things like cubes and circulators? I don't understand why you would make the ratio this unfair for just one item

    even if it's illegal, in windia people buy nx 1k for 350, so id say 500mil for 4k is a discount with those rates

    You do realize mesos are worthless in windia because of all the hackers and meso farmers who ruined the economy right? There are no meso farmers or trading in reboot so I don't know how or why you thought comparing a p2w server whose economy has been ruined for years to a non trading server would be a good idea. You know why people buy nx for 350m per k? because you can get over a bil for like 2 US dollars from illegal meso sites.

    Nexon has already set a precedent with NX to meso through cubes and circulators, where it is around 10m for 1k nx. If you're gonna make a 4k nx item 500m you might as well make the cubes and circulators 200 mil each, right? It's absolutely hilarious that you are comparing meso rates in WINDIA, the server most infested with hackers, to a server with absolutely no trading, it painfully obvious you have 0 clue what you're talking about. Unfortunately buddy unlike you guys in Windia we in reboot can't just go on xxxmesoseller420xD.com and buy 10bil for $20.

    But there's still people trying to sell mesos in reboot. o-o;

    It's kind of redundant. But 500m for one box, if they had this in the real servers lol...
  • peremecperemec
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    edited May 2017
    peremec wrote: »
    peremec wrote: »
    Hello? Why are they so expensive? in what universe does 4k nx equal 500 mil mesos? why not follow the precedents set by things like cubes and circulators? I don't understand why you would make the ratio this unfair for just one item

    even if it's illegal, in windia people buy nx 1k for 350, so id say 500mil for 4k is a discount with those rates

    You do realize mesos are worthless in windia because of all the hackers and meso farmers who ruined the economy right? There are no meso farmers or trading in reboot so I don't know how or why you thought comparing a p2w server whose economy has been ruined for years to a non trading server would be a good idea. You know why people buy nx for 350m per k? because you can get over a bil for like 2 US dollars from illegal meso sites.

    Nexon has already set a precedent with NX to meso through cubes and circulators, where it is around 10m for 1k nx. If you're gonna make a 4k nx item 500m you might as well make the cubes and circulators 200 mil each, right? It's absolutely hilarious that you are comparing meso rates in WINDIA, the server most infested with hackers, to a server with absolutely no trading, it painfully obvious you have 0 clue what you're talking about. Unfortunately buddy unlike you guys in Windia we in reboot can't just go on xxxmesoseller420xD.com and buy 10bil for $20.

    But there's still people trying to sell mesos in reboot. o-o;

    It's kind of redundant. But 500m for one box, if they had this in the real servers lol...

    Yes I agree i'm not gonna act like people don't try to sell mesos on reboot, but in those cases you have to buy an actual account with mesos on it and completely restart, it's also illegally done, whereas normal servers are getting an actual meso market in the game where they can do these transactions legitimately by trading maple points for mesos, the rates will undoubtedly be around the rates of meso sites or else no one would buy it. There is obvious problems in reboot but treating it as a server as ruined as WINDIA is ridiculous.
  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    edited May 2017
    peremec wrote: »
    peremec wrote: »
    Hello? Why are they so expensive? in what universe does 4k nx equal 500 mil mesos? why not follow the precedents set by things like cubes and circulators? I don't understand why you would make the ratio this unfair for just one item

    even if it's illegal, in windia people buy nx 1k for 350, so id say 500mil for 4k is a discount with those rates

    You do realize mesos are worthless in windia because of all the hackers and meso farmers who ruined the economy right? There are no meso farmers or trading in reboot so I don't know how or why you thought comparing a p2w server whose economy has been ruined for years to a non trading server would be a good idea. You know why people buy nx for 350m per k? because you can get over a bil for like 2 US dollars from illegal meso sites.

    Nexon has already set a precedent with NX to meso through cubes and circulators, where it is around 10m for 1k nx. If you're gonna make a 4k nx item 500m you might as well make the cubes and circulators 200 mil each, right? It's absolutely hilarious that you are comparing meso rates in WINDIA, the server most infested with hackers, to a server with absolutely no trading, it painfully obvious you have 0 clue what you're talking about. Unfortunately buddy unlike you guys in Windia we in reboot can't just go on xxxmesoseller420xD.com and buy 10bil for $20.

    cubes and circulators are cheap because theyre one time use.
    these boxes have special items.
    Again, I play in reboot, not windia. and it's illegal to buy mesos on third party sites.
  • peremecperemec
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    edited May 2017
    peremec wrote: »
    peremec wrote: »
    Hello? Why are they so expensive? in what universe does 4k nx equal 500 mil mesos? why not follow the precedents set by things like cubes and circulators? I don't understand why you would make the ratio this unfair for just one item

    even if it's illegal, in windia people buy nx 1k for 350, so id say 500mil for 4k is a discount with those rates

    You do realize mesos are worthless in windia because of all the hackers and meso farmers who ruined the economy right? There are no meso farmers or trading in reboot so I don't know how or why you thought comparing a p2w server whose economy has been ruined for years to a non trading server would be a good idea. You know why people buy nx for 350m per k? because you can get over a bil for like 2 US dollars from illegal meso sites.

    Nexon has already set a precedent with NX to meso through cubes and circulators, where it is around 10m for 1k nx. If you're gonna make a 4k nx item 500m you might as well make the cubes and circulators 200 mil each, right? It's absolutely hilarious that you are comparing meso rates in WINDIA, the server most infested with hackers, to a server with absolutely no trading, it painfully obvious you have 0 clue what you're talking about. Unfortunately buddy unlike you guys in Windia we in reboot can't just go on xxxmesoseller420xD.com and buy 10bil for $20.

    cubes and circulators are cheap because theyre one time use.
    these boxes have special items.
    Again, I play in reboot, not windia. and it's illegal to buy mesos on third party sites.

    Are you slow or?..... Do you think these boxes are not one time items? LOOOOOOL

    Obviously buying mesos from third party is illegal but lets not act like no one does it because it's illegal. Regular servers are also getting a legit meso market next patch anyways, so it'll make your meso trading even easier.

    They are boxes you open, then they disappear, I know that is pretty hard to grasp, so take your time. I know you're gonna probably say "THE ITEMS YOU GET FROM THE BOXES PERMA", well the potentials you get from cubes are ... guess what? perma, the inner abilities you get from circulators are what??........perma. So nice try but there isn't any difference.

    I know you're just grasping at straws at this point since you have nothing else to say to justify the 500m since you realized comparing it to regular server mesos is completely stupid, but come on dude try a little harder.
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  • HeinekenHeroHeinekenHero
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    The boxes also contain reg items not just rezero itemsXD anyone ready to pay 500m for soul enchanters and power elixers.
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  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    edited May 2017
    peremec wrote: »
    peremec wrote: »
    peremec wrote: »
    Hello? Why are they so expensive? in what universe does 4k nx equal 500 mil mesos? why not follow the precedents set by things like cubes and circulators? I don't understand why you would make the ratio this unfair for just one item

    even if it's illegal, in windia people buy nx 1k for 350, so id say 500mil for 4k is a discount with those rates

    You do realize mesos are worthless in windia because of all the hackers and meso farmers who ruined the economy right? There are no meso farmers or trading in reboot so I don't know how or why you thought comparing a p2w server whose economy has been ruined for years to a non trading server would be a good idea. You know why people buy nx for 350m per k? because you can get over a bil for like 2 US dollars from illegal meso sites.

    Nexon has already set a precedent with NX to meso through cubes and circulators, where it is around 10m for 1k nx. If you're gonna make a 4k nx item 500m you might as well make the cubes and circulators 200 mil each, right? It's absolutely hilarious that you are comparing meso rates in WINDIA, the server most infested with hackers, to a server with absolutely no trading, it painfully obvious you have 0 clue what you're talking about. Unfortunately buddy unlike you guys in Windia we in reboot can't just go on xxxmesoseller420xD.com and buy 10bil for $20.

    cubes and circulators are cheap because theyre one time use.
    these boxes have special items.
    Again, I play in reboot, not windia. and it's illegal to buy mesos on third party sites.

    Are you slow or?..... Do you think these boxes are not one time items? LOOOOOOL

    Obviously buying mesos from third party is illegal but lets not act like no one does it because it's illegal. Regular servers are also getting a legit meso market next patch anyways, so it'll make your meso trading even easier.

    They are boxes you open, then they disappear, I know that is pretty hard to grasp, so take your time.

    I know you're just grasping at straws at this point since you have nothing else to say to justify the 500m since you realized comparing it to regular server mesos is completely stupid, but come on dude try a little harder.

    500 mil is justifiable because if reboot was introduced nx, the rates would be the highest of the other servers as it is a meso based server. It's simple economics when you translate the value of mesos from other servers and postulate what the value would be if you had to exchange from meso to nx in reboot. The more mesos there are in a server, the less the mesos are worth. So reboot has 5x the amount of mesos in drops as other servers do. thats how Im justifying the 500mil. Simply put, reboot would be the most expensive server if nx were introduced.
  • peremecperemec
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    edited May 2017
    peremec wrote: »
    peremec wrote: »
    peremec wrote: »
    Hello? Why are they so expensive? in what universe does 4k nx equal 500 mil mesos? why not follow the precedents set by things like cubes and circulators? I don't understand why you would make the ratio this unfair for just one item

    even if it's illegal, in windia people buy nx 1k for 350, so id say 500mil for 4k is a discount with those rates

    You do realize mesos are worthless in windia because of all the hackers and meso farmers who ruined the economy right? There are no meso farmers or trading in reboot so I don't know how or why you thought comparing a p2w server whose economy has been ruined for years to a non trading server would be a good idea. You know why people buy nx for 350m per k? because you can get over a bil for like 2 US dollars from illegal meso sites.

    Nexon has already set a precedent with NX to meso through cubes and circulators, where it is around 10m for 1k nx. If you're gonna make a 4k nx item 500m you might as well make the cubes and circulators 200 mil each, right? It's absolutely hilarious that you are comparing meso rates in WINDIA, the server most infested with hackers, to a server with absolutely no trading, it painfully obvious you have 0 clue what you're talking about. Unfortunately buddy unlike you guys in Windia we in reboot can't just go on xxxmesoseller420xD.com and buy 10bil for $20.

    cubes and circulators are cheap because theyre one time use.
    these boxes have special items.
    Again, I play in reboot, not windia. and it's illegal to buy mesos on third party sites.

    Are you slow or?..... Do you think these boxes are not one time items? LOOOOOOL

    Obviously buying mesos from third party is illegal but lets not act like no one does it because it's illegal. Regular servers are also getting a legit meso market next patch anyways, so it'll make your meso trading even easier.

    They are boxes you open, then they disappear, I know that is pretty hard to grasp, so take your time.

    I know you're just grasping at straws at this point since you have nothing else to say to justify the 500m since you realized comparing it to regular server mesos is completely stupid, but come on dude try a little harder.

    500 mil is justifiable because if reboot was introduced nx, the rates would be the highest of the other servers as it is a meso based server. It's simple economics when you translate the value of mesos from other servers and postulate what the value would be if you had to exchange from meso to nx in reboot. The more mesos there are in a server, the less the mesos are worth. So reboot has 5x the amount of mesos in drops as other servers do. thats how Im justifying the 500mil. Simply put, reboot would be the most expensive server if nx were introduced.

    Okay I have concluded you are just pretending to be stupid at this point, there is no way a human can be this dumb LOL Once again, putting aside your abysmal justification, which completely ignores the fact that there is no trading in reboot, Nexon had made clear nx to meso rate is 10mil for 1k with previous items, there is no reason to make one item cost more than 10x the precedent that has already been set. I mean at this point i'm 99% sure you're just some salty windia player trolling so my questions have been answered.
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  • lagging247YAYlagging247YAY
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    500 mil is justifiable because if reboot was introduced nx, the rates would be the highest of the other servers as it is a meso based server. It's simple economics when you translate the value of mesos from other servers and postulate what the value would be if you had to exchange from meso to nx in reboot. The more mesos there are in a server, the less the mesos are worth. So reboot has 5x the amount of mesos in drops as other servers do. thats how Im justifying the 500mil. Simply put, reboot would be the most expensive server if nx were introduced.

    But... There isn't any trading in reboot :$ This is just sad at this point, DarkPassenger, seeing you post in various threads about this topic saying the exact same irrelevant garbage to justify your points, you clearly have some kind of vendetta against Reboot, and you are doing a real bad job at trying to hide it, when you can't even grasp the most basic concept of reboot: there is no trading in this server.
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  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    edited May 2017
    peremec wrote: »
    peremec wrote: »
    peremec wrote: »
    peremec wrote: »
    Hello? Why are they so expensive? in what universe does 4k nx equal 500 mil mesos? why not follow the precedents set by things like cubes and circulators? I don't understand why you would make the ratio this unfair for just one item

    even if it's illegal, in windia people buy nx 1k for 350, so id say 500mil for 4k is a discount with those rates

    You do realize mesos are worthless in windia because of all the hackers and meso farmers who ruined the economy right? There are no meso farmers or trading in reboot so I don't know how or why you thought comparing a p2w server whose economy has been ruined for years to a non trading server would be a good idea. You know why people buy nx for 350m per k? because you can get over a bil for like 2 US dollars from illegal meso sites.

    Nexon has already set a precedent with NX to meso through cubes and circulators, where it is around 10m for 1k nx. If you're gonna make a 4k nx item 500m you might as well make the cubes and circulators 200 mil each, right? It's absolutely hilarious that you are comparing meso rates in WINDIA, the server most infested with hackers, to a server with absolutely no trading, it painfully obvious you have 0 clue what you're talking about. Unfortunately buddy unlike you guys in Windia we in reboot can't just go on xxxmesoseller420xD.com and buy 10bil for $20.

    cubes and circulators are cheap because theyre one time use.
    these boxes have special items.
    Again, I play in reboot, not windia. and it's illegal to buy mesos on third party sites.

    Are you slow or?..... Do you think these boxes are not one time items? LOOOOOOL

    Obviously buying mesos from third party is illegal but lets not act like no one does it because it's illegal. Regular servers are also getting a legit meso market next patch anyways, so it'll make your meso trading even easier.

    They are boxes you open, then they disappear, I know that is pretty hard to grasp, so take your time.

    I know you're just grasping at straws at this point since you have nothing else to say to justify the 500m since you realized comparing it to regular server mesos is completely stupid, but come on dude try a little harder.

    500 mil is justifiable because if reboot was introduced nx, the rates would be the highest of the other servers as it is a meso based server. It's simple economics when you translate the value of mesos from other servers and postulate what the value would be if you had to exchange from meso to nx in reboot. The more mesos there are in a server, the less the mesos are worth. So reboot has 5x the amount of mesos in drops as other servers do. thats how Im justifying the 500mil. Simply put, reboot would be the most expensive server if nx were introduced.

    Okay I have concluded you are just pretending to be stupid at this point, there is no way a human can be this dumb LOL Once again, putting aside your abysmal justification, which completely ignores the fact that there is no trading in reboot, Nexon had made clear nx to meso rate is 10mil for 1k with previous items, there is no reason to make one item cost more than 10x the precedent that has already been set. I mean at this point i'm 99% sure you're just some salty windia player trolling so my questions have been answered.

    Your reasoning leads me to believe that no matter how i try to explain economics to you, you wont understand it, thats why youre talking the way you do. It's all speculation but for some reason you just want to engage in a battle of insults. if itd be a battle of wits, I can see you are unarmed. I fail to see your obsession with me being a reboot player, why are you so hell bent on the thinking that I play in windia. Can I not play reboot and see how 500mil is fair for this one time event box that you people consider to be a p2w item?
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    Your reasoning leads me to believe that no matter how i try to explain economics to you, you wont understand it, thats why youre talking the way you do. It's all speculation but for some reason you just want to engage in a battle of insults. if itd be a battle of wits, I can see you are unarmed. I fail to see your obsession with me being a reboot player, why are you so hell bent on the thinking that I play in windia. Can I not play reboot and see how 500mil is fair for this one time event box that you people consider to be a p2w item?

    Hi guys, my name is DarkPassenger, 12 btw, turning 13 in june. I learned the word economics from my middle school business class. little do I know, economics doesn't apply to servers with no economy! :o


    No but seriously I can see why people think you play in Windia, There is no reboot player that would compare reboot meso rates to windia as their first argument to justify charging 10 times more than usual on an nx item in Reboot.
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  • LadysioLadysio
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    A whole lot of if's and why's but not a single clear answer as to why 500mil XD hope it is a typo cause honestly 500mil for a chance at a 50 pack of power elixirs is highway robbery LOL.
  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    HASUEHAS wrote: »
    Your reasoning leads me to believe that no matter how i try to explain economics to you, you wont understand it, thats why youre talking the way you do. It's all speculation but for some reason you just want to engage in a battle of insults. if itd be a battle of wits, I can see you are unarmed. I fail to see your obsession with me being a reboot player, why are you so hell bent on the thinking that I play in windia. Can I not play reboot and see how 500mil is fair for this one time event box that you people consider to be a p2w item?

    Hi guys, my name is DarkPassenger, 12 btw, turning 13 in june. I learned the word economics from my middle school business class. little do I know, economics doesn't apply to servers with no economy! :o


    No but seriously I can see why people think you play in Windia, There is no reboot player that would compare reboot meso rates to windia as their first argument to justify charging 10 times more than usual on an nx item in Reboot.

    is it even something to mock if a 13 year old is learning ecnomonics/business in middle school? isnt it rather stupid to make fun of someone even if theyre 12-13 for learning something useful in middle school? and the concept of economics exists anywhere that there is currency, whether it be imaginary or real.

    what were you learning at age of 12-13 other than how to lock yourself in your room and bathroom. Id rather not insult you because then I get penalized for straying off topic.
  • WhiteOut123WhiteOut123
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    I hope it's a typo!! Was really looking forwards to this event until i saw the 500m :(
  • lagging247YAYlagging247YAY
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    is it even something to mock if a 13 year old is learning ecnomonics/business in middle school? isnt it rather stupid to make fun of someone even if theyre 12-13 for learning something useful in middle school? and the concept of economics exists anywhere that there is currency, whether it be imaginary or real.

    what were you learning at age of 12-13 other than how to lock yourself in your room and bathroom. Id rather not insult you because then I get penalized for straying off topic.

    i dont rly think anyone is mocking, its quite ez to tell that they were insinuating you were talking about a topic you don't have a clear understanding of, its like someone acting like they r a CS graduate but are unable to explain anything past if else statements. you're putting your knowledge to use which is good but it's at too early of a stage in your learning, you should thoroughly learn about a subject before lecturing other people on it. I briefly took business back in freshman year of high school many years ago but even I am able tell you that is not how economics works.
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  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    is it even something to mock if a 13 year old is learning ecnomonics/business in middle school? isnt it rather stupid to make fun of someone even if theyre 12-13 for learning something useful in middle school? and the concept of economics exists anywhere that there is currency, whether it be imaginary or real.

    what were you learning at age of 12-13 other than how to lock yourself in your room and bathroom. Id rather not insult you because then I get penalized for straying off topic.

    i dont rly think anyone is mocking, its quite ez to tell that they were insinuating you were talking about a topic you don't have a clear understanding of, its like someone acting like they r a CS graduate but are unable to explain anything past if else statements.

    if a middle school is teaching business and economics, it would be a pretty advanced school with sharp students to be having those types of classes.