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Remove Crusader Codex

FreezingFireFreezingFire
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edited September 2016 in Suggestions, Feedback, and Requests
The Crusader Codex system only causes confusion, and from its history throughout the game, it seems that it would take a lot of effort to fix the cards of monsters that don't exist anymore. We've already got monster collection now, two pokedex systems is unnecessary.

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  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited September 2016
    Crusader Codex gives stats for completing collections. Monster Collection gives items.

    Both can exist side by side, but JMS needs to pick up the pace on updating it. Plus, you know as well as I do that no one is going to give up their precious Leafre codex set.
  • DaxterbeerDaxterbeer
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    edited September 2016
    JMS has it so you can summon three monsters on the field.

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    Oops
  • CatoooloooCatooolooo
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    edited September 2016
    Hell no, dont remove the Codex, it just needs to be revamped.
    and the Crusader Codex and Moster Collection are two Totally different systems
    DalethMaryseInvulgoIts2Sharp4U
  • DalethDaleth
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    edited September 2016
    Catooolooo
    Catooolooo said:

    Hell no, dont remove the Codex, it just needs to be revamped.
    and the Crusader Codex and Moster Collection are two Totally different systems
    I agree, it just needs to be updated!
    Many people depend on it for knowledge of drops!

    Also, familiars! They are non optional - there are so many things familiars can do for you! I would not accept giving that up!
  • CatoooloooCatooolooo
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    edited September 2016
    Aggraphine
    Aggraphine said:

    Crusader Codex gives stats for completing collections. Monster Collection gives items.

    Both can exist side by side, but JMS needs to pick up the pace on updating it. Plus, you know as well as I do that no one is going to give up their precious Leafre codex set.
    uh, It's GMS that needs to work on updating the Codex, JMS has been updating the codex for a while now. JMS have a couple Sets that GMS should have like the Gollux one and a few other areas actually.
  • KerqxonKerqxon
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    edited September 2016
    I think Codex should get updated as well so we can actually get the complete bonus set.( so many broken sets in there)
  • InvulgoInvulgo
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    edited September 2016
    FreezingFire
    FreezingFire said:

    The Crusader Codex system only causes confusion, and from its history throughout the game, it seems that it would take a lot of effort to fix the cards of monsters that don't exist anymore. We've already got monster collection now, two pokedex systems is unnecessary.
    What about familiars then? Those are awesome! What about the amazing set effects it gives?

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    I would not want to lose this!
    Lilyflower
  • HolyGiraffeHolyGiraffe
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    edited September 2016
    dude, 30% PDR is a lot for some people.
  • KerqxonKerqxon
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    edited September 2016
    it is and is almost required for doing endgame bosses( I have 87% pdr because of it), But I would like you know it to be COMPLETEABLE, so we can get the better stat one which is 35% pdr and +plus some more stats.
  • bumbertyrbumbertyr
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    edited September 2016
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    even though the monster codex does has it's issues, it's still in a well enough functioning state to be REVAMPED, not removed.
    JettLuvsU
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited September 2016
    bumbertyr
    bumbertyr said:

    even though the monster codex does has it's issues, it's still in a well enough functioning state to be REVAMPED, not removed.
    This is just someone who thinks that Monster Collection was meant to be a replacement for the Crusader Codex.
  • KerqxonKerqxon
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    edited September 2016
    I think all monsters we can't get in there SHOULD BE DELETED.
  • bumbertyrbumbertyr
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    edited September 2016
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    Xerna said:

    I think all monsters we can't get in there SHOULD BE DELETED.
    they don't need to be deleted, we just need fixes so we can obtain them.
  • KerqxonKerqxon
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    edited September 2016
    bumbertyr
    bumbertyr said:

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    Xerna said:

    I think all monsters we can't get in there SHOULD BE DELETED.
    they don't need to be deleted, we just need fixes so we can obtain them.
    that works too thats what blocks us players from the Codex reward we really want.
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited September 2016
    bumbertyr
    bumbertyr said:

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    Xerna said:

    I think all monsters we can't get in there SHOULD BE DELETED.
    they don't need to be deleted, we just need fixes so we can obtain them.
    What would be really nice is if they could bang together a list of all Codex cards that are presently unobtainable, and allow you to speak to the Maple Admin NPC to get all of these cards. Or hell, an event in which unobtainable mobs spawn fairly often(but not too often, maybe one every 15-20 minutes with a max cap of four at one time) in town maps(like Ikura did, but with four at once and such), and maybe PQ bosses could be spawned(no Dragonair or Dragon Rider though) the same, but only one at a time and a somewhat longer delay.
  • MegaScienceMegaScience
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    edited September 2016
    I'd rather the Crusader Codex used Monster Collection to manage gathered monsters, while we kept the book for Familiars and Set Equip Potential. Only problem is it would make Leafre set available to all characters in a world immediately, which could be a bit unfair and complicate starting off new characters. At least, it would need to be checked to make sure it isn't an early-game balance issue.

    Any other ideas?
  • AKradianAKradian
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    edited September 2016
    MegaScience
    MegaScience said:

    I'd rather the Crusader Codex used Monster Collection to manage gathered monsters, while we kept the book for Familiars and Set Equip Potential. Only problem is it would make Leafre set available to all characters in a world immediately, which could be a bit unfair and complicate starting off new characters. At least, it would need to be checked to make sure it isn't an early-game balance issue.

    Any other ideas?
    Leafre Set doesn't mean much in early game. Low level enemies (and bosses) don't have much PDR, so 30% IED won't suddenly double anyone's damage on them.
    The +1 to skill levels is also nearly meaningless, considering the speed at which we level and the fact that most classes can max all (or all but one) of their 2nd and 3rd jobs skills.
  • BIackbeanBIackbean
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    edited September 2016
    crusader codex shouldn't be removed, but just improved by adding in more monster cards, since the codex has good stats (potential)
  • CatoooloooCatooolooo
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    edited September 2016
    MegaScience
    MegaScience said:

    I'd rather the Crusader Codex used Monster Collection to manage gathered monsters, while we kept the book for Familiars and Set Equip Potential. Only problem is it would make Leafre set available to all characters in a world immediately, which could be a bit unfair and complicate starting off new characters. At least, it would need to be checked to make sure it isn't an early-game balance issue.

    Any other ideas?
    I suggest you and others take a look a tthis thread, show your support and post more ideas on how to improve the codex http://forums.maplestory.nexon.net/discussion/249/crusader-codex-revamp#latest
  • gamechangergamechanger
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    edited September 2016
    Kerqxon
    Kerqxon said:

    it is and is almost required for doing endgame bosses( I have 87% pdr because of it), But I would like you know it to be COMPLETEABLE, so we can get the better stat one which is 35% pdr and +plus some more stats.
    Even if we had all the cards obtainable right now, there isn't enough exp to get to level 10 in the codex anyway (though JMS might have enough sets to do that now). But yes, the old cards need to be re-obtainable. And frankly I would be ok with Nexon just handing out all of the cards that are unobtainable to all players (and all new players on account creation), since with the trends from NexonKorea, those closed areas will never return with their original mobs.