Well it seems that this is going even more downhill.
Now on some servers meso prices are so high that maple could actually be someones daytime job.
Another thing that would be nice is that when you have capped arcane symbols you could get some meso from the arcane river dailies. Highly doubting that any botter would bother doing dailies for 183-335 days for meso. That would also probably keep some ppl playing more frequently after capping symbols since after that there's mainly bosses until new content comes and those bosses are weekly ones so no need to log in even every day.
farming bosses on alts is a good way to make meso. only problem is it is kind of time consuming and obviously you gotta gear those alts. i had fun reading the comments here tho to say the least lmao.
Well it seems that this is going even more downhill.
Now on some servers meso prices are so high that maple could actually be someones daytime job.
Another thing that would be nice is that when you have capped arcane symbols you could get some meso from the arcane river dailies. Highly doubting that any botter would bother doing dailies for 183-335 days for meso. That would also probably keep some ppl playing more frequently after capping symbols since after that there's mainly bosses until new content comes and those bosses are weekly ones so no need to log in even every day.
Well it seems that this is going even more downhill.
Now on some servers meso prices are so high that maple could actually be someones daytime job.
Another thing that would be nice is that when you have capped arcane symbols you could get some meso from the arcane river dailies. Highly doubting that any botter would bother doing dailies for 183-335 days for meso. That would also probably keep some ppl playing more frequently after capping symbols since after that there's mainly bosses until new content comes and those bosses are weekly ones so no need to log in even every day.
Well i knew that was coming but still the meso coming from crystals isn't really worth gearing some mules up. Also the weekly income rose from 400m to 500m on your main and that definetly doesn't affect the economy so terribly.
There's just few problems going circles now.
1. the SF cost is so high that quite a lot of meso ingame is eaten away by game itself.
2. when sf cost is high ppl have problems gaining more power to advance on bosses and those gaps between boss tiers are huge.
3. When ppl can't afford starforcing their items they improve potentials by cubing and potentials are getting cheaper and cheaper so even having low star decent potential eqp isn't really worth anything when market is flooded with 24%+ items.
4. Ppl get bored on being stuck between some tiers between nlomien-hbosses and decide to quit the game.
5. Quitting ppl sell their items and meso with real money and quitters don't really care about bans at that point when the trade is done.
6. Since meso is sold to meso buyers (quite often those are also meso sellers) even more meso ingame goes behind illegit ways to obtain.
7. Game runs lower on meso obtained via legal ways so ppl get poorer so this circle starts again.
Maple's economy is built on huge player base and when player base is withering the economy isn't doing really well.
Also it seems like those meso boxes from legion and monster park friday are damn terribly adjusted.
monster park friday gold box should give 10k-50m meso and rarely 500m/wealth acquisition pot/2x drop coupon. After opening 20 of those past weeks i've had just 2 boxes giving over 1m (1,02m and 1,07m) and including those 2 only 5 were over 300k. I guess that 500m is rare anyways but why have those meso gaps when they are so heavily weighted to the lower end. the two lower tier legion boxes are linear distribution so there's equal chance of getting any value among the gap. Rest of meso boxes seem to just have that top value as a lottery jackpot and 80% of the time you get something from the lowest 1%. for monster park boxes you get 7 of those/week/account if you buy 5 extra runs with rew points so having that linearized wouldn't be that terrible meso overload.
Well it seems that this is going even more downhill.
Now on some servers meso prices are so high that maple could actually be someones daytime job.
Another thing that would be nice is that when you have capped arcane symbols you could get some meso from the arcane river dailies. Highly doubting that any botter would bother doing dailies for 183-335 days for meso. That would also probably keep some ppl playing more frequently after capping symbols since after that there's mainly bosses until new content comes and those bosses are weekly ones so no need to log in even every day.
Well i knew that was coming but still the meso coming from crystals isn't really worth gearing some mules up. Also the weekly income rose from 400m to 500m on your main and that definetly doesn't affect the economy so terribly.
There's just few problems going circles now.
1. the SF cost is so high that quite a lot of meso ingame is eaten away by game itself.
2. when sf cost is high ppl have problems gaining more power to advance on bosses and those gaps between boss tiers are huge.
3. When ppl can't afford starforcing their items they improve potentials by cubing and potentials are getting cheaper and cheaper so even having low star decent potential eqp isn't really worth anything when market is flooded with 24%+ items.
4. Ppl get bored on being stuck between some tiers between nlomien-hbosses and decide to quit the game.
5. Quitting ppl sell their items and meso with real money and quitters don't really care about bans at that point when the trade is done.
6. Since meso is sold to meso buyers (quite often those are also meso sellers) even more meso ingame goes behind illegit ways to obtain.
7. Game runs lower on meso obtained via legal ways so ppl get poorer so this circle starts again.
Maple's economy is built on huge player base and when player base is withering the economy isn't doing really well.
Also it seems like those meso boxes from legion and monster park friday are damn terribly adjusted.
monster park friday gold box should give 10k-50m meso and rarely 500m/wealth acquisition pot/2x drop coupon. After opening 20 of those past weeks i've had just 2 boxes giving over 1m (1,02m and 1,07m) and including those 2 only 5 were over 300k. I guess that 500m is rare anyways but why have those meso gaps when they are so heavily weighted to the lower end. the two lower tier legion boxes are linear distribution so there's equal chance of getting any value among the gap. Rest of meso boxes seem to just have that top value as a lottery jackpot and 80% of the time you get something from the lowest 1%. for monster park boxes you get 7 of those/week/account if you buy 5 extra runs with rew points so having that linearized wouldn't be that terrible meso overload.
economy fix its almost to late or impossible to be made with all the hackers,p2w and issue going on around
that powercreep its so high now
lowering SF cost will just double the curent powercreep issue and inflate meso even more
we are never going to see the KMS rates
we got way to much dirty meso in the market and every day more and more is being generated
and i understand your pain for us who try do something legit with meso its impossible to go further once you hit the wall without $$$ or hacking and we want more meso makeing ways...
but as you saw you asked for more meso from cystals? you got it
what changed ? nothing just inflated the meso a bit more
same will happend with SF if nexon lower the cost
market will get folded with higher SF items for dirt cheap meso
at this point and all the issues going on around good luck with makeing some change
am on my 2nd weekend hiatus from GMS so yea
Nexon has no control over their economy. They simply sometimes are able to crack down on the hacking client that is used by most of the botting population. Recently they cracked down very effectively and hacks were shut down for a while. They have been online again since last week. I'd say mesos will start going down again shortly. Because of Nexon's absence in regulating their economy, you don't realize how much you are relying on botters.
Something is quite wrong when the ingame currency is mainly generated by botters.
Another thing which is quite annoying is that when hard bosses (hlotus-hwill) drop abso or AU eqps (mainly weps) it has damn high rate of being pure crap (some abso weps are like 40mil which doesn't really make it worth to do those bosses). Especially AU stuff is bit annoying to sell when noone really wants those on mules and there's just plenty of them lying around and getting price stomped for several months. I would sell to npc gladly some abso weps for 100m each rather than w8ing for few weeks and getting that 100m then (100m is quite much 1 sf try for 17-18 on absos so mathematically 638 clean items would make 1 22* one (with common drop rates that would be 3 years of hlotus+hdam so not so gamebreaking actually).
Idk what server you're in but when prices are more than halved in the past 3 months and stuff just sitting on AH for weeks even by being the cheapest of it's kind tells something about economy not being fine.
Reducing SF costs would help something since it seems to be the main bottleneck for now but the real problem is that playerbase is getting lower and economy relies bit too much on huge playerbase (well if there's 12k non reboot chars which are 210+ and 1400 of those are in Luna and 130,504 accounts banned for botting in 1 week something seems to be a little bit wrong)
If meso is heavily based on grinding ofc there's swarms of botters doing that. If the mesos comes mainly from bosses/pqs ppl can still basically grind them even with entry limits since there's multiple characters and botters would have little bit harder time.
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Now on some servers meso prices are so high that maple could actually be someones daytime job.
Another thing that would be nice is that when you have capped arcane symbols you could get some meso from the arcane river dailies. Highly doubting that any botter would bother doing dailies for 183-335 days for meso. That would also probably keep some ppl playing more frequently after capping symbols since after that there's mainly bosses until new content comes and those bosses are weekly ones so no need to log in even every day.
well you got what you wanted originally
Increased the sale price of Intense Power Crystal items for high difficulty bosses.
we got more meso in the market and yup meso just got inflated and the only worlds that avoid that are dead one lol
now deal with the consequences and good luck farming boss on alts all day
There's just few problems going circles now.
1. the SF cost is so high that quite a lot of meso ingame is eaten away by game itself.
2. when sf cost is high ppl have problems gaining more power to advance on bosses and those gaps between boss tiers are huge.
3. When ppl can't afford starforcing their items they improve potentials by cubing and potentials are getting cheaper and cheaper so even having low star decent potential eqp isn't really worth anything when market is flooded with 24%+ items.
4. Ppl get bored on being stuck between some tiers between nlomien-hbosses and decide to quit the game.
5. Quitting ppl sell their items and meso with real money and quitters don't really care about bans at that point when the trade is done.
6. Since meso is sold to meso buyers (quite often those are also meso sellers) even more meso ingame goes behind illegit ways to obtain.
7. Game runs lower on meso obtained via legal ways so ppl get poorer so this circle starts again.
Maple's economy is built on huge player base and when player base is withering the economy isn't doing really well.
Also it seems like those meso boxes from legion and monster park friday are damn terribly adjusted.
monster park friday gold box should give 10k-50m meso and rarely 500m/wealth acquisition pot/2x drop coupon. After opening 20 of those past weeks i've had just 2 boxes giving over 1m (1,02m and 1,07m) and including those 2 only 5 were over 300k. I guess that 500m is rare anyways but why have those meso gaps when they are so heavily weighted to the lower end. the two lower tier legion boxes are linear distribution so there's equal chance of getting any value among the gap. Rest of meso boxes seem to just have that top value as a lottery jackpot and 80% of the time you get something from the lowest 1%. for monster park boxes you get 7 of those/week/account if you buy 5 extra runs with rew points so having that linearized wouldn't be that terrible meso overload.
economy fix its almost to late or impossible to be made with all the hackers,p2w and issue going on around
that powercreep its so high now
lowering SF cost will just double the curent powercreep issue and inflate meso even more
we are never going to see the KMS rates
we got way to much dirty meso in the market and every day more and more is being generated
and i understand your pain for us who try do something legit with meso its impossible to go further once you hit the wall without $$$ or hacking and we want more meso makeing ways...
but as you saw you asked for more meso from cystals? you got it
what changed ? nothing just inflated the meso a bit more
same will happend with SF if nexon lower the cost
market will get folded with higher SF items for dirt cheap meso
at this point and all the issues going on around good luck with makeing some change
am on my 2nd weekend hiatus from GMS so yea
Another thing which is quite annoying is that when hard bosses (hlotus-hwill) drop abso or AU eqps (mainly weps) it has damn high rate of being pure crap (some abso weps are like 40mil which doesn't really make it worth to do those bosses). Especially AU stuff is bit annoying to sell when noone really wants those on mules and there's just plenty of them lying around and getting price stomped for several months. I would sell to npc gladly some abso weps for 100m each rather than w8ing for few weeks and getting that 100m then (100m is quite much 1 sf try for 17-18 on absos so mathematically 638 clean items would make 1 22* one (with common drop rates that would be 3 years of hlotus+hdam so not so gamebreaking actually).
Idk what server you're in but when prices are more than halved in the past 3 months and stuff just sitting on AH for weeks even by being the cheapest of it's kind tells something about economy not being fine.
Reducing SF costs would help something since it seems to be the main bottleneck for now but the real problem is that playerbase is getting lower and economy relies bit too much on huge playerbase (well if there's 12k non reboot chars which are 210+ and 1400 of those are in Luna and 130,504 accounts banned for botting in 1 week something seems to be a little bit wrong)
If meso is heavily based on grinding ofc there's swarms of botters doing that. If the mesos comes mainly from bosses/pqs ppl can still basically grind them even with entry limits since there's multiple characters and botters would have little bit harder time.