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Ride or Die 10-week legion participation reward?

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edited January 25 in Suggestions, Feedback, and Requests
Greetings!

I've decided to post this here since my submitted ticket likely won't receive the consideration it deserves. I feel like I can't be the only person to dislike the literally useless 10-week Ride or Die legion block reward for Burning World characters. Additionally, because this reward is shared, I'm wondering why participation count for this event is not shared between all characters on the account? Essentially, it makes no sense to have the 10-week participation reward even available to burning world characters, since it supposedly cannot be transferred. This was quite misleading while creating a new character to participate with as it's not even a disclaimer in-game.

At this point, after realizing it is not shared and cannot be claimed for world transfer, my character in Elysium is behind 1-week and will not be able to receive the ultimate reward I've been working towards although my Burning World character is on track to claim it. Being able to claim it and transfer it to a world that doesn't already have the block claimed or just sharing the highest character participation across all characters would easily solve this dilemma. I can't possibly be the only one who has made this mistake, assuming everyone doesn't scrutinize every agonizing detail of the patch notes. It really just seems like poor game development to even have the legion block available (yet disabled) for burning characters as opposed to an actual reward that can be used. Despite my current disappointment, I'm hoping others who might feel similarly could help improve the outcome of this event.
  1. Who is satisfied with the 10-week participation legion block for Burning World characters?4 votes
    1. Yes
       75% (3 votes)
    2. No
       25% (1 vote)

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  • Member RedRaven
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    edited January 25
    if your playing 2 worlds by default, you should known b4 hand that your main world pieces aren't use in the other world(which mean the Dark Ride Piece would work the same way as all other pieces) simple logic there

    also questionnable why you would even run dark ride on a burning world with massive dps handicap...no A Rank or S Rank rewards to begin with by just doing that
    like why destroy quality rewards on purpose ?

    on top of that it was in the patch notes
    and assuming there was a disclaimer in game..what are the chance you actually read it ? would you not just have rush click yes and ignore everything anyway ?

    maybe NX should make a system with a check in box which will cause you to get spam of pop up to force you to read(seeing you hate to read)

    well your at fault there for being too lazy to read
    ...lemme ask you...would you do the same thing when you sign a contract ? because geez, that may cost you big time if u do that for those too

    anyway live and learn, just wait for the next opportunity, it come back around at some point
  • Member Potatos_R_G00d
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    edited January 25
    Buddy, I read the patch notes but forgot the explicit detail stating that it cannot be transferred from burning world until it was too late. Clearly you didn't even read my post, I'm not trying to use legion block pieces in the burning world... Just trying to successfully claim the reward for my account while also wondering why it is even an option for burning characters...
    RedRaven wrote: »
    also questionnable why you would even run dark ride on a burning world with massive dps handicap...no A Rank or S Rank rewards to begin with by just doing that
    like why destroy quality rewards on purpose ?

    on top of that it was in the patch notes
    and assuming there was a disclaimer in game..what are the chance you actually read it ? would you not just have rush click yes and ignore everything anyway ?

    You do realize you can claim separate rewards for your main world and burning worlds the way it's set up currently right? Assuming, I don't read and just ignore everything says much more about you than me. It's not possible for me to mistakenly try to get the reward on a burning character even after reading the patch notes right?

    How simple would it be to actually put the disclaimer into the NPC participation rewards claiming page when you look at all 5 rewards and whether you qualify? Not rushing past that page am I buddy!

    Blaming me for supposedly being illiterate or lazy is just weak and you should feel bad. It's my job to properly develop this game with minimal confusion and frustration for my customers... Right?

    Not sure why you think legal contracts are relative to video game patch notes but okay, just proves how irrelevant your opinion is to this matter.
  • Member RedRaven
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    edited January 25
    i have read you whole, dont worry bout it

    ok so
    1-do i realize.........so your saying that completing dark ride on any world make the rewards claimable on any world ?, if so no i wasn't aware, however would not that mean you could claim the piece on your main world ?(contradictory to what you said previously)....or did you mean running the event on 2 world at once and THEN claim lets say reward 1-2-5 on world 1 and reward 3-4 on world 2 ?........i only play on a single world so i'am not quite well verse on how the system work entirely, but from the patch note it was clear that the piece could only be claim on a single world

    2-you mistakenly claiming it on the wrong world assuming the above is possible, didn't you fill a ticket to have it fix ? why not wait the result first see what happen ?

    3- so what you want is a tracker that tell you on which world you can claim it on and that show you your progress for each world regardless of the world your logging in from ?

    4-idk what to tell you about it, for me the information available was very clear, so i can't understand the confusion..... if you feel like the system is lacking why not bring up design pictures and share it with NX ? and maybe a check box in the option for ppl that want/dont want the extra prompts you seem to want

    5-well its just to say that reading is important and that if you dont its at your own risk...about 60-75% of issues i read about are from ppl who dont read so i kind of jumped to that conclusion assuming that was such a case again...i didn't rly have a way to know

    other than that, sorry for some of my wordings, i'am not exactly the greatest at conveying my thoughts in the most polite/clear way....and i sort of let some of my negativity in at times...hope you can forgive me a bit for that

    i be out for a bit, my brain frying atm from thinking so much
  • Member Potatos_R_G00d
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    edited January 25
    I'll simplify this issue even more. Imagine I created a brand-new account with only a character in the burning world. Does it make sense that this reward would be available for 10 weeks of participation? Since it literally serves no functional purpose for that character (in any server), I hope you see the clear answer.
  • Member Potatos_R_G00d
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    edited January 25
    To reiterate my main issue with the most simplified solutions I could come up with as a user. The participation counts between main servers and burning world are counted separately. My problem is that my main server character is behind 1 week so he will never reach the 10-week legion block reward and cap out at 9 total.

    However, my burning account character on the same account has enough participation weeks to finally receive the reward, which is effectively useless to the entire account, since that is on the burning server.

    The simplest solution would be to just allow the highest participation count to be shared between worlds. Ex. I hit 10 weeks of participation in burning server but can claim the legion block on a main server that doesn't have it yet.

    Another possibility would just be allowing the burning server character to transfer the legion block to a main world where it was not previously claimed.

    Ultimately, I just want to be able to claim a usable legion block for my 10 weeks of participation and if the reward was changed to provide some actual use to burning world characters who are participating alongside main world characters, that would be the cherry on top.

    In what context does it make sense to develop a dead reward and just label it as a disclaimer in the patch notes, like it's not screaming lazy game development. Blaming someone for not recalling a nonsensical detail that should have never even been in the patch notes to begin with is pretty wild.
  • Member Potatos_R_G00d
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    edited January 25
    As for my support ticket, all they did was reiterate the patch notes I was referencing and said they would pass it on to the game team for review. They even suggested bringing it up within the forum which I have now done as well. The status was changed to solved with literally no solution or correspondence. If you can feel my disdain for this entire support system, it's because experience has taught me that this effort is almost always a waste of time.
  • Member, Private Tester Fuhreak
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    edited January 27
    To reiterate my main issue with the most simplified solutions I could come up with as a user. The participation counts between main servers and burning world are counted separately. My problem is that my main server character is behind 1 week so he will never reach the 10-week legion block reward and cap out at 9 total.

    If you are only behind by one week you will still be able to earn the block.
    Nexon gave you 12 weeks to earn the 10 week participation, not 10 weeks.
    I am actually two weeks behind and I will still be earning the reward on my reg account.
    There is reason to be concerned about the fact that burning world is not able to take the legion block reward with them to reg as many new players who are not already on a server will be rug pulled by this.
    Other than being more clear that burning world cannot redeem the legion block, the rewards for this event were actually very generous.
    It is the event itself that is a stain upon this game.
  • Member BerTheName
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    edited January 28
    much of the legion and ride or die event is useless. it's die or ride, reeeeeeeee.
  • Member Potatos_R_G00d
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    edited January 30
    I'll only have 9 total participation weeks on my main server account by the end of the event. I know I started it just in time initially to be eligible I did it the previous week only on my burning character because I thought I'd be able to claim it on whatever with that count. Didn't realize it was separate counts between worlds the week I needed to do both. I just want to be able to claim it and have it translate to my main server for the effort I've put in.
    Fuhreak
  • Member, Private Tester Fuhreak
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    edited January 30
    That is rough, Nexon has given us more time for previous events so I'm not sure why this one had so little extra time to get it done.
    Since this is one of the first events that GMS staff itself has done they will hopefully learn from the mistakes of this event and make the next one better.
    I think advocating for the return of legion blocks and other legacy items is the most productive way to handle missing out on this BIS Legacy content.
  • Member Daxterbeer
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    edited January 30
    I can see Inkwell and the GMS team is actually making an effort to close the gap between older and new players by making the Ride or Die block count towards the 2 event legion piece limits meaning someone who did LAB, Abyssal Expedition and Ride or Die cannot use them all. The bonuses are nice and there is no powercreep as all the 5 piece blocks seem to offer the same bonuses so there no "New and improved" block in the event. The Chains of Resentment were the best prizes as we finally got an official answer to the Legacy Frenzy Totem and service issue. The gesture was nice on paper, but it was a mess due to not being guaranteed one even if you perfected all the weeks and the content itself being poorly designed in terms of gameplay and just how the rewards were given out.

    Basically they gave us af F grade GMS exclusive event with an SS Tier max reward (the reward pool remains questionable.)
    Fuhreak
  • Member Potatos_R_G00d
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    edited February 13
    The fact that at least 2 people think that a burning character, literally the main point of the burning event and world, gets something that is actually useless for the final reward of the other featured event is actually embarrassing. Not only is this poorly thought out, but it gets worse... An account with only a burning character can't even access the event to claim the previous weekly prize or use the shops. So essentially, the extra time to spend everything you've accrued over these 10+ weeks is worthless to them as well...

    It's pretty wild how thoughtless the whole process seems, you'd think the integration of events would make sense for the center of the entire event, the burning characters??? The sentiment of Nexon and this forum makes me cringe, big YIKES! Lol you'd think this process would feel seamless by now, but I guess that's not really the goal for anyone involved, except apparently me?!?!
  • Member Potatos_R_G00d
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    edited February 14
    Out of ~450 people who have seen this... Only 2 have voted, and for the nothing choice, so those 2 participants might have voted just to spite me for trying to get Nexon to improve their game?

    I honestly cannot express my disappointment with this game and the community as a whole. I've asked in the official Discord how this makes sense to anyone without just being the result of poor game development. The only responses I got amounted to essentially saying that the burning event needs to be updated or to just not play this game at all...

    All it would take is for someone to imagine trying to play the game on a brand-new account for these events. These could have been integrated to synergize with the burning world and instead it apparently is just an afterthought.

    I literally cannot access any Ride or Die content on my alternate accounts who went through world transfer. Not to claim my final weekly boss reward or the extended time shops. I couldn't claim the 10-week participation legion block.

    Why have the burning event at the same time as Ride or Die at all?

    I've just asked this again in a ticket, so I guess we'll see LOL


  • Member RedRaven
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    edited February 14
    they did let you choose the event you wanted to do....why run both at the same time ?(ppl like to have choices over linear gameplay)...1 of the reasons FFXIII was so poorly receive was because it was too linear....so basicly NX giving ppl freedom of choice here the way the majority likes it(although they prob dont know about the FFXIII flop for linearity)
    .a new player would of favor the 260 burning(if they wanted to play interactive that is)
    while an older player would favor to participate in ride or die

    in your case you happen to want both, idk why you wanted to do ride or die on a burning characters however, would not using your main char be more logical ? like it has much greater dps to score highter and better boxes, that aside, if your a new player, a lvl 260 character is a much greater reward than the ride or die legion piece
    and well here something nice to know, Ride or Die will likely return at some point for you to get another chance..so patience

    look i missed out on the Abyssal expedition piece due to lack of knowledge, but i just be patient and wait for it to come back.....maple like to bring back events over time, so just take the lost for this time, and next time it come around you be more prepare for it

    your voting thing....you ask ppl if they were satisfy with the event ( only Yes//No are possible to click.....not sure where that "nothing" option is)
    if ppl voted yes, why does it piss you off ? not everyone struggle to comprehend a sentence the way it is worded
    your probably among a very small minority in that regard if there isn't much negativity about it

    anyway cmon, dont be so upset about it, you get another chance eventually

    community can't rly do anything for you we aren't NX...

    brand new account missing out on event is sort of normal too,especially if its not aimed at them, i did miss out on goodies as well when i started but eh...what can i do about it ? i wasn't at the lvl requirement at the time

    the final box reward was claimable on reboot world, however ppl that didn't claim the legion block after participating 10 weeks got shafted because they waited on the reset....NX might potentially do something for ppl that got shafted in such a way although there haven't been any word about it atm


    i be done here, all i can suggest is to move on and let it go OR move to another game if you dislike the way NX and the community answer you
    even if you move to nother game though, you will alway find a part of the community thats not to your liking...there no such thing as a perfect community

    best of luck to you to find a community thats perfectly to your liking
  • Member Potatos_R_G00d
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    edited February 17
    RedRaven wrote: »
    1. in your case you happen to want both, idk why you wanted to do ride or die on a burning characters however, would not using your main char be more logical ? like it has much greater dps to score highter and better boxes, that aside, if your a new player, a lvl 260 character is a much greater reward than the ride or die legion piece
    and well here something nice to know, Ride or Die will likely return at some point for you to get another chance..so patience

    2. your voting thing....you ask ppl if they were satisfy with the event ( only Yes//No are possible to click.....not sure where that "nothing" option is)
    if ppl voted yes, why does it piss you off ? not everyone struggle to comprehend a sentence the way it is worded
    your probably among a very small minority in that regard if there isn't much negativity about it

    3. the final box reward was claimable on reboot world, however ppl that didn't claim the legion block after participating 10 weeks got shafted because they waited on the reset....NX might potentially do something for ppl that got shafted in such a way although there haven't been any word about it atm

    1. Buddy you are being the exact person you were talking about in your first post, do you even read? Not sure how many times I can reiterate the fact that you can claim separate rewards on both the main world and the burning world. I've already said, "You do realize you can claim separate rewards for your main world and burning worlds the way it's set up currently right?"

    Now knowing this and the fact you can just join and leave a boss room to still get the basic rewards. Why would you not do this on both characters? Even one round of free 3000 event exp is amazing for a low 200s character... not to mention a chance for chains??? Honestly, how thoughtless can your post be buddy?

    2. Here's the polling prompt, "Who is satisfied with the 10-week participation legion block for Burning World characters?". Does that sound like a generalization for the entire event? Answering yes, means your satisfied with Nexon's sloppy reward restriction that is completely unnecessary, and nothing happens. Saying no means you want them to improve the game instead of just giving burning characters nothing as their final reward... There's honestly no way I can simplify this issue more without an actual lecture since apparently nobody can comprehend what they read or are just so beyond having any expectations for Nexon that they just gave up and just accept this nonsense by default, LMAO!

    3. So it turns out there is some negativity about it then? How dumb is it to remove the ability to claim the participation rewards while leaving the coin shops open? I'll give you the answer: extremely. All of these barriers to simply claim rewards from events should have been streamlined long ago, like how many times have they done this? In fact, there is an actual bug currently where it just gives a notification stating, "An unknown error prevented the trade from completing." when trying to purchase anything now, even on main characters... Maybe they'll finally take a look at this embarrassment of an event end because of Reboot and let me at least be able to claim something.

    At this point, I've wasted so much time trying to complete this event, I couldn't have lower expectations for Nexon. The only way they might have a chance of improving or fixing their mistakes, is with more community involvement and attention. With 2/500 people voting and choosing the option stating you're ready to bend over and take just about anything... or nothing in this case! LOL I couldn't imagine being so apathetic towards improving the game whose forum you are currently browsing and entering this discussion to not simply click a button to participate before you leave. Honestly, I'm not sure how much more pathetic it can get. Absolutely horrifying

  • Member, Private Tester Fuhreak
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    edited February 18
    2. Here's the polling prompt, "Who is satisfied with the 10-week participation legion block for Burning World characters?". Does that sound like a generalization for the entire event? Answering yes, means your satisfied with Nexon's sloppy reward restriction that is completely unnecessary, and nothing happens. Saying no means you want them to improve the game instead of just giving burning characters nothing as their final reward... There's honestly no way I can simplify this issue more without an actual lecture since apparently nobody can comprehend what they read or are just so beyond having any expectations for Nexon that they just gave up and just accept this nonsense by default, LMAO!
    To be fair, your poll is worded poorly. It should read "Are you satisfied" not "Who is satisfied", answering "Yes" to your question makes no sense. You would say "I am" or "Me", likewise answering no to your question equally makes no sense.
    It is more likely that not everyone answered your polls because not everyone who visits the forums cares to create an account or answer polls. (Especially when there might be confusion/disinterest in said poll)
    People could also just not care or not be affected, so it's not that they're willing to accept Nexon's nonsense, it's just that it didn't affect them so they don't care.
    For me personally, I am not affected so I won't answer this poll, I am happy with the event rewards because this specific problem did not affect me.
    If the question is supposed to be "Is this acceptable?" then the answer is of course no, there is no need for a poll.
    3. So it turns out there is some negativity about it then? How dumb is it to remove the ability to claim the participation rewards while leaving the coin shops open? I'll give you the answer: extremely. All of these barriers to simply claim rewards from events should have been streamlined long ago, like how many times have they done this? In fact, there is an actual bug currently where it just gives a notification stating, "An unknown error prevented the trade from completing." when trying to purchase anything now, even on main characters... Maybe they'll finally take a look at this embarrassment of an event end because of Reboot and let me at least be able to claim something.
    It is very crazy that they still make this mistake and I'm not sure how they haven't learned their lesson yet.
    At this point, I've wasted so much time trying to complete this event, I couldn't have lower expectations for Nexon. The only way they might have a chance of improving or fixing their mistakes, is with more community involvement and attention. With 2/500 people voting and choosing the option stating you're ready to bend over and take just about anything... or nothing in this case! LOL I couldn't imagine being so apathetic towards improving the game whose forum you are currently browsing and entering this discussion to not simply click a button to participate before you leave. Honestly, I'm not sure how much more pathetic it can get. Absolutely horrifying
    Calm down. You're assuming way too much, yes it's unacceptable that Nexon's event works like this but just because people didn't answer your poll doesn't mean they agree with it or don't care.
    The forums are extremely dead, we don't know how views even work on the forums so that number could be inflated by whatever metrics Nexon uses for their forums.
    If you care for feedback from others I highly recommend you use either the discord or reddit as those are far more active than the forums.
    I am frequently logged out of the forums due to the fact that it thinks I'm on a different computer and that could easily count as an extra person every time that happens. Others are probably also affected by Nexon's poorly designed website, part of why the forums are dead in the first place I'm sure.
    If you must be disappointed with anyone who is apathetic, be disappointed with Nexon.
  • Member RedRaven
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    edited February 18
    chill man

    point 1 you made:, i got a crappy memory so i forgot about the dual world claim already as its not rly something that interest me, so i apologize for it
    i'am not thoughless but its also not my job, if was my job i would already taken notes about your complain

    point 2: i know full well that your speaking about ride or die, i didn't think i would have to specify it since your thread is about that part of it
    but what i was saying is your poll doesn't look like this....when u state that ppl voted for "nothing"...there not a third option saying "nothing"
    1.Yes
    2.No
    3.Nothing......(where is this option in the poll ?)

    point 3: yes thats 1 little negative and it surely has been discuss in the discord and Nexon might do something about it,
    the upcoming maintenance gonna extend the shops already due to an issue with the NPC, idk if they gonna fix the issue with the legion piece however for those that done the 10 week


    well i be seeing myself out...also maybe you should take a bit of time off from here, let your mind flames go down some b4 your next post
    ...i dont think turning the thread into a flame war going to help with what you want,
    if my posts aren't to your liking then just skip over me...although i think it may be best that i do not reply you further seeing you dislike the way i'am answering ya
    not interest into having a fight with ya
  • Member Potatos_R_G00d
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    edited February 21
    Yes, you are satisfied. No, you are not satisfied. Those are perfectly acceptable implicit answers for either polling prompt, one insignificant semantic edit does not change the meaning of the poll at all or invalidate the logical meaning of the answers to suddenly not make sense... but nice try my Fuhreaky friend. It's an opinion about whether an unusable legion block is a satisfactory ultimate event reward for the burning world characters. It honestly cannot be simplified further, given all of my additional context.

    Whether you're affected or not does not change how thoughtless of a decision this is. You can simply click once to raise awareness for it, the same effort it takes to choose to view this discussion... You are literally describing apathetic behavior as an excuse to not participate in something you clearly clicked on for a reason. I'M NOT ASKING IF YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH YOUR REWARDS!!! Saying yes or doing nothing does, in fact, mean you are fine with Nexon shafting burning characters for no meaningful reason and are fine with their subpar game development, so long as YOU'RE happy and it doesn't affect YOU. My Fuhreaky friend, instead of posting that garbage, you should have just answered no if you find it unacceptable... If nobody can make sense of the poll or anything else here, I think we've got much larger problems, like reading comprehension and self-worth.

    Like I've already said, I tried addressing this in the Discord and tickets alike. It's just an embarrassing response no matter what medium I choose. This is for sure the sign to get whatever I can out of this game and dump it like the ran through trap it is... LMFAO
  • Member, Private Tester Fuhreak
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    edited February 21
    Saying yes or doing nothing does, in fact, mean you are fine with Nexon shafting burning characters for no meaningful reason and are fine with their subpar game development, so long as YOU'RE happy and it doesn't affect YOU.
    No, it actually doesn't. That's why I took the time to post in your thread, boosting the visibility and making the conversation more interesting than one person shouting into the void.
    I agreed with you and tried to offer solutions that actually help you. I understand that you're upset and that it's unacceptable that Nexon would create an event like this.
    Don't fight the community that is in the same boat as you as you'll only cause them all to sink along with you. It sucks, but there's no reason to go after anyone other than Nexon here.
    You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
  • Member Potatos_R_G00d
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    edited March 14
    It's hilarious you would describe this thread as shouting into the void. Pretty self-explanatory for the entire process of improving Nexon's game for them it seems.