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Old Boss Revamp//Tweaks

RedRavenRedRaven
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edited October 13 in Suggestions, Feedback, and Requests
thx Rath_GMS for giving me some inspiration to do this today XD

could we have the following bosses up to date ?

Omni-CLN(possibly some new mechanic on top of current ones + dmg adjustment as well in addition to the HP boost ?
Normal Difficulty: about 15-20X more HP: drop a Zeno Totem(5 Attack, 12 All Stats)
Hard Difficulty: about 1000X more HP: drop a lvl 200 Ring(meant to be tackle at approximetly 80 million CP(Solo)

Arkarium: dmg immunities removed, reflect duration shortened to 2 seconds, new Mechanics given to him on top of his old ones(minus removed ones)
Arkarium can now be fought on Easy,Normal and Hard
Normal difficulty can now drop a Snake Totem(5 Attack, 12 All Stats)
Hard Difficulty doesn't give new loots, just better odd at Dominator Necklace and can also drop the new totem from Normal
Hard Difficulty meant to be tackle at about 25 Millions CP(solo)

Von Leon: reflect duration shortened, 1 or 2 new mechanic, no new difficulty setting, HP increased by 100% for hard difficulty
new drop
Ifia Totem: 5 Attack, 12 All Stats

Horntail: now drop a miniature Horntail pet(5X rarer than Hard Hilla one)...1 or 2 new mechanics given to the first 2 phase of HT(the giant heads)
...idk if his P3 can rly be revamp with so many body parts to take out XD

Bean, P-No, Aketchi..Reflect duration shorten(rly doesn't need to last that long), dmg immunities also removed from Bean fight(Top Statue)
Darkness status removed from Bean statue Fight, in exchange increase all statue health by 8-15%

Ranmaru: his mount can now drop for us to ride it, maybe also give him the Sengoku Badge as a rare chance to drop ? make it fair with legacy items
idk if he should be given a new difficulty just for the badge, but then it would devalue black mage badge...

Gollux: now drop 7X as much coins and reset Wednesday and Sunday(can be fought ONCE from Wednesday to Saturday and ONCE from Sunday to Tuesday
Lifes count increased from 5 to 7 as if you screw up you loose big time....a little less obnoxious than having to fight him everyday

these new totems are less powerfull than Afterland Totems, but for those who rly dont wanna do Afterland they can now get totems a little later but with less power since much less time investment

leave your thoughts bellow about these proposed changes

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  • DaxterbeerDaxterbeer
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    edited October 14
    Omni-CLN(possibly some new mechanic on top of current ones + dmg adjustment as well in addition to the HP boost ?
    Normal Difficulty: about 15-20X more HP: drop a Zeno Totem(5 Attack, 12 All Stats)
    Hard Difficulty: about 1000X more HP: drop a lvl 200 Ring(meant to be tackle at approximetly 80 million CP(Solo)

    Hard Mode's HP is less than a third of Phase 1 Easy Lucid and just 5 times as hard as PNO, (2x of MSEA's revamp.) The reward being equivalent to an Endless Terror and you didn't specify it being daily, weekly or month. If it were just a daily boss, it would be one heck of an easy boss with a nutty reward. You would need to 100x the HP (100,000x total) to make it a CTENE tier daily boss to make it worth the LVL 200 Ring reward, or lower the ring's level so its 140 or 150 to actually match the difficulty.

    Everything else seems fine, but the totem stats could be doubled since there are legacy totems and this could be its modern equivalent.

    Fuhreak
  • RedRavenRedRaven
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    edited October 14
    1000X is not enough to be comparable to be around Hard Seren HP ?(i didn't even look at his actual hp but i thought 1000X would be enough to pump it near Hard Seren level

    but anyway in the second half of my sentence i wrote meant to be for about 80M cp solo...just a rough estimation

    and definetly a weekly for the hard mode Omni-CLN...daily would be whack for sure XD

    totem wise i got my older suggestions for stronger totems if you dig my previous threads

    these new ones i suggested in this thread is an alternative to afterland and guild totems for early game...not meant to compete with legacy like my other suggestions
    and since they would require praticly no time invest..only fair that they have lower stats than Afterland ones


  • AchnologniaAchnolognia
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    edited October 16
    Damien is the boss I believe needs the most rework. He should remain on the ground, moving from left to right like Darknell, Seren, and Phase 1-1 Limbo Specter. His attacks could include dashes, slashes, stabs and swipes. The main threat being the Demonic Sword.

    Lore-wise, you’re trying to save the World Tree from Damien’s corruption. The World Tree uses the last of its strength to aid you in battle, allowing you to dodge two of Damien’s full map attacks.

    The World Tree could grow uncorrupted leaves that function as platforms. You could stand beneath them when Damien stationary on the ground rains down his “fireball popcorn” skill, like White Full Map Attack from Black Mage Phase 3. Alternatively, Damien could summon black death-fume explosions rising from the ground, forcing you to jump onto the uncorrupted leaves to avoid them. Like Full Map Attack from Black Mage P4.

    Extreme Damien. Can drop a unique Exceptional Enhancement Item for Shields. Enabling players to enhance their Ruin Force Shield.
  • AlexKarevAlexKarev
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    edited November 8
    There's several bosses that need a separate Easy/Hards mods.
    The Silent Crusade Coming Storm needs to change to easy instead of normal!
    ANY lv 215 or lower will not be able to complete it unless you are a whale.
  • DaxterbeerDaxterbeer
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    edited November 8
    AlexKarev wrote: »
    There's several bosses that need a separate Easy/Hards mods.
    The Silent Crusade Coming Storm needs to change to easy instead of normal!
    ANY lv 215 or lower will not be able to complete it unless you are a whale.

    The bosses aren't for whale and are not even weekly boss worthy. You aren't even playing correctly if you cannot build to take out Normal Arkarium
  • RedRavenRedRaven
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    edited November 8
    Alex if you need help with your hyper stats, artifacts stats, legion grid distribution just ask
    also if you haven't work on your legion levels at all istrongly recommend you to, freeby 25% dps increase early on

    also i help out new players to get fully set up in CRA as soon as they hit lvl 200...take roughly 20 minutes if they're quick learners,,slow learners take a hour(kin of a pain)

    IF your on Kronos
    just sign up to DeadAltsArmy guild, i help ya out, no KSing other players if you join though, TEMPORARY GUILD SLOT AS WELL, i currently dont keep ppl in for more than 4 months, if you dont wanna sign up to my guild then try your luck to whisp me on SunemTCursed......its my main char but i'am not log on it for more than like 30-60 mins in general(except during bossing day i stay extended time on it), i do stuff on my alts usually if no dailies/weeklies on my main

    here my offer, i'am willing to carry up to 3 of your chars and set up in full CRA gear(if your on Kronos)

    if your on another world, whelp, nothing i can do for ya(but maybe ya can hope for a kin soul in boss ui to carry you)

    btw Normal Arkarium is beatable at roughly lvl 160 and Chaos HT at lvl 145(if your legion level is high)
    if your having issue at 215 very likely a IED% issue...low IED% = do garbo dmg on bosses
    basicly your dps gets reduce between 0 and 100% depending how much IED% you got..if you got less than 90% total your in hot waters
    IED% goal is roughly 92-98%, depending on your class and current in-game progress
  • AlexKarevAlexKarev
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    edited November 8
    RedRaven wrote: »
    Alex if you need help with your hyper stats, artifacts stats, legion grid distribution just ask
    also if you haven't work on your legion levels at all istrongly recommend you to, freeby 25% dps increase early on

    also i help out new players to get fully set up in CRA as soon as they hit lvl 200...take roughly 20 minutes if they're quick learners,,slow learners take a hour(kin of a pain)

    IF your on Kronos
    just sign up to DeadAltsArmy guild, i help ya out, no KSing other players if you join though, TEMPORARY GUILD SLOT AS WELL, i currently dont keep ppl in for more than 4 months, if you dont wanna sign up to my guild then try your luck to whisp me on SunemTCursed......its my main char but i'am not log on it for more than like 30-60 mins in general(except during bossing day i stay extended time on it), i do stuff on my alts usually if no dailies/weeklies on my main

    here my offer, i'am willing to carry up to 3 of your chars and set up in full CRA gear(if your on Kronos)

    if your on another world, whelp, nothing i can do for ya(but maybe ya can hope for a kin soul in boss ui to carry you)

    btw Normal Arkarium is beatable at roughly lvl 160 and Chaos HT at lvl 145(if your legion level is high)
    if your having issue at 215 very likely a IED% issue...low IED% = do garbo dmg on bosses
    basicly your dps gets reduce between 0 and 100% depending how much IED% you got..if you got less than 90% total your in hot waters
    IED% goal is roughly 92-98%, depending on your class and current in-game progress


    You guys can have several mains at your disposal. I got lucky during a tera event 2-3yrs ago I got my revamp AB to a high enough lv with arcane & gear. My other characters are just only following the path, but other quests need to be done before going through the arcane river again. The Story through the arcane river was amazing, but days of logging in to play for free exp coupons were a blessing at the same time kinda cheezed through the pass through maple points since we buy what we wanna buy right! If you buy cubes buy cubes. I've been a veteran player since whenever & know what hasn't & what needs to change.

    If your asking for a 800k+ legion that's whale territory, I'm a quarter a way there, but at the same time work 5 days a week & not playing on the computer all day!
    Yes Reboot server is easy than Normal server, so ofc i need more dps for my lv215 that are lacking some equips not all & there's a limit of how much cubing you can do in the (legion shop) unless your using nx cash to keep buying them that's on you. I take advantage of what i see in the Auction house & i can design what my legion grind can look like!
  • AlexKarevAlexKarev
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    edited November 8
    Daxterbeer wrote: »
    AlexKarev wrote: »
    There's several bosses that need a separate Easy/Hards mods.
    The Silent Crusade Coming Storm needs to change to easy instead of normal!
    ANY lv 215 or lower will not be able to complete it unless you are a whale.

    The bosses aren't for whale and are not even weekly boss worthy. You aren't even playing correctly if you cannot build to take out Normal Arkarium

    The whales wouldn't have trouble now would they with 10mill dps or higher.
    MY AB is at 2mill dps & its the only one that can fall Normal Arkarium in secs With Gear that has Bonuses and all scroll some SF to lv11.

    Yes the whale go for major bosses like lotus or Damien Gollux & Will each on Hard. How do you think they become whales in the first place? Rinse repeat, weekly, stream daily of it, so all of that streaming income goes into their dps etc. What else do you think they do beside this? The rarely play other games because of their guilds & what other games could they even be good at to stream on Twitch or Youtube/Kick!
  • DaxterbeerDaxterbeer
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    edited November 8
    AlexKarev wrote: »
    Daxterbeer wrote: »
    AlexKarev wrote: »
    There's several bosses that need a separate Easy/Hards mods.
    The Silent Crusade Coming Storm needs to change to easy instead of normal!
    ANY lv 215 or lower will not be able to complete it unless you are a whale.

    The bosses aren't for whale and are not even weekly boss worthy. You aren't even playing correctly if you cannot build to take out Normal Arkarium

    The whales wouldn't have trouble now would they with 10mill dps or higher.
    MY AB is at 2mill dps & its the only one that can fall Normal Arkarium in secs With Gear that has Bonuses and all scroll some SF to lv11.

    Yes the whale go for major bosses like lotus or Damien Gollux & Will each on Hard. How do you think they become whales in the first place? Rinse repeat, weekly, stream daily of it, so all of that streaming income goes into their dps etc. What else do you think they do beside this? The rarely play other games because of their guilds & what other games could they even be good at to stream on Twitch or Youtube/Kick!

    I just F2P on an account with nothing on it aside from knowledge in a world with no help. If you are only to play a 1 or 2 hours per weekend, you wont be making that much progress in terms of level or gear.
  • RedRavenRedRaven
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    edited November 9
    $$$ dont need to be spênt for good progress unless your in the lvl 275+ territory then at that point you may want to

    once again i can provide carries all day long..there that 1 newbie guy i already carried for 20 chars of his(literaly just 20 MINUTES per char)
    and ALL of them are in CRA gear, if i could help him progress that much, why dont you do the same and take the opportunity ?
    AbsoLab/Arcanne i dont rly assist with those however.....only my main can carry that on Hard so i'am more selective on who get the carries for Arcane gear

    once again..instead of going "bla bla bla", i'am asking if you want the help, stop writing non-consctructive post...just say YES or NO to my carry offer....simple....dont drag this
    less talking lets get it to.....if you drag it out by talking 20 hours you certainly wont progress
    raven#2493 is my id in discord...

    i will help you fix your stats,i will carry, just listen to me a bit and you get rewarded, its not sorcery to get guided some
    unless your 1 of those that wanna do everything by themselve, in that case progressing will way harder

    also here if your too proud to be guided directly ...paste that after the dot com on youtube..thats duky video that explain how your dps work
    watch?v=SzW5HVMxZPE

    dont derail my thread further plz ^_^...i be waiting you in discord if you choose to accept the open help i'am offering
  • AlexKarevAlexKarev
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    edited November 13
    Daxterbeer wrote: »
    AlexKarev wrote: »
    Daxterbeer wrote: »
    AlexKarev wrote: »
    There's several bosses that need a separate Easy/Hards mods.
    The Silent Crusade Coming Storm needs to change to easy instead of normal!
    ANY lv 215 or lower will not be able to complete it unless you are a whale.

    The bosses aren't for whale and are not even weekly boss worthy. You aren't even playing correctly if you cannot build to take out Normal Arkarium

    The whales wouldn't have trouble now would they with 10mill dps or higher.
    MY AB is at 2mill dps & its the only one that can fall Normal Arkarium in secs With Gear that has Bonuses and all scroll some SF to lv11.

    Yes the whale go for major bosses like lotus or Damien Gollux & Will each on Hard. How do you think they become whales in the first place? Rinse repeat, weekly, stream daily of it, so all of that streaming income goes into their dps etc. What else do you think they do beside this? The rarely play other games because of their guilds & what other games could they even be good at to stream on Twitch or Youtube/Kick!

    I just F2P on an account with nothing on it aside from knowledge in a world with no help. If you are only to play a 1 or 2 hours per weekend, you wont be making that much progress in terms of level or gear.

    When you first began you usually are weaker until you use nx cash to get stronger, but if you are type to just to keep asking for carriers ofc your dps will improve overtime and mesos wouldn't be an issue. I remember the days on where the bishops using HS to leech the whales @ Lion's Castle & this when the max cap lv 200 or even before that! I'm not f2p i spent really money on cosmetics before the FM was even remove. Cosmetics will always go before cubing!
  • AlexKarevAlexKarev
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    edited November 13
    RedRaven wrote: »
    $$$ dont need to be spênt for good progress unless your in the lvl 275+ territory then at that point you may want to

    once again i can provide carries all day long..there that 1 newbie guy i already carried for 20 chars of his(literaly just 20 MINUTES per char)
    and ALL of them are in CRA gear, if i could help him progress that much, why dont you do the same and take the opportunity ?
    AbsoLab/Arcanne i dont rly assist with those however.....only my main can carry that on Hard so i'am more selective on who get the carries for Arcane gear

    once again..instead of going "bla bla bla", i'am asking if you want the help, stop writing non-consctructive post...just say YES or NO to my carry offer....simple....dont drag this
    less talking lets get it to.....if you drag it out by talking 20 hours you certainly wont progress
    raven#2493 is my id in discord...

    i will help you fix your stats,i will carry, just listen to me a bit and you get rewarded, its not sorcery to get guided some
    unless your 1 of those that wanna do everything by themselve, in that case progressing will way harder

    also here if your too proud to be guided directly ...paste that after the dot com on youtube..thats duky video that explain how your dps work
    watch?v=SzW5HVMxZPE

    dont derail my thread further plz ^_^...i be waiting you in discord if you choose to accept the open help i'am offering


    Again lad in the beginning there's no harm & spending money to get ahead! I spent my real money on Premium Boxes to just so can tweak with Auction house and find the best deals & get more mesos overtime.. Yet you can carry 20 characters in CRA Gratz who in the beginning carried you. WE all started somewhere & bought nx cash to get stronger! Heck my AB wouldn't be lv256 even if I haven't spent real money during her special revamped..... btw your discord id isn't invalid!

    I ONLY asked to see if they could change Normal Ark "coming storm" to story progression! (since arcane river had story progression) which was neat hearing Keith as "Will" but will i able to even beat him on hard i have no clue when that will happen, being carried is not something i enjoy when its a major accomplishment.
  • RedRavenRedRaven
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    edited November 14
    i never been carried in my beginning ....i geared up all by myself UNTILL Lotus/Damien which i struggled DUO with another NEW player....basicly i pulled my own weight, not a 5% and done, it was more like 50% from both me and the other newby

    even to this day i dont rly get much carry..at most a couple Will /GolluxTrades with friends to help each other alts out
    i worked my butt off on my own for my first char, only after my main got decently geared was i able to carry trade with another player to start my boss mule army

    NX spending ? sorry but the only NX i spent went to CLOTHES, not gear, not battle pass, none of that
    currently my chars lvl are 283, 269, 266, 265, 263, 261 ,261, 8 char at lvl 260, 258, 250, 250, 243, 242, 236, 6 char at lvl 225, all others classes are 220+, Perma beginner is at lvl 219.....thats my progress with not a single $$$ to help me level up

    overall i only been dependent on CRA carry TRADE, after setting up my main to have enough dps for it


    as for discord id try a cap R if the lower case r dont work....i can never remember if its a cap R or lower case r
    so Raven#2493 if raven#2493 didn't work......
    however base on your second post, your an interactive player, i play on Heroic Worlds, no Auction House there
    so even if you do add me, if we're not both on the same world i can't assist

    also Interactive is at this point a server for whales to flex their $$$, idk why you would play it as a non-whale


    also lemme quickly break your bubble
    most old boss Difficulty rating are like 1/10 compare to revamped Lotus and bosses beyond that
    Magnus is still kin of a rng fest so i guess that make him a 3/10 in term of difficulty
    and Vellum is a 5/10
    Pierre&Queen cases they're not meant to be soloed
    Pierre due to that if the hat is the same color as the boss you heal him instead, if you solo your force to purposely kill your char to remove the hat
    Crimson Queen Breath dmg is meant to be split among all party members(so that 50k ish dmg split among 6 ppl is roughly 8k dmg)
    the only real acomplishment is getting a group of 6 ppl, most players will just take the carry to progress 10 time faster and get to the content
    that everyone else is doing

    but beating up on old days punching bags is not rly an accomplishment , no offense
    for Vellum even if you receive a carry for him, you still gotta survive a fair bit of time, think of him as your first challenge on a fresh lvl 200 character

    and 1 more thing, bosses aren't meant to be downed in literaly 10 second unless you hardcore overgeared for them
    a boss isn't a boss if its mow down in jut 10 sec

    Arkarium can be fell with a lvl 160 once your legion lvl is advance and that you got your links
    even when i was a newby i was able to solo Arkariuim with nothing starforce at around lvl 190
    however back then my lack of understanding of how ied% work made his snakes invincible on some classes for not having enough ied%


    to finish
    thats fine if your not keen on getting carried, but everyone else would prefer catch up to content everyone does and not be stuck in barren land wonderland(aka deserted content)

    also i strongly recommend starting over to Kronos if your not a whale, interactive will lock you out of end-game boss content as a non-whale
    if you decide to start over to Kronos i get you all set up asap
    all i ask of you b4 i carry you is
    1- reach lvl 200
    2-complete Vanish town pq 3X to lvl your symbol to lvl 6 immediatly(huge dps gain)
    3-Unlock Sayram Elixir
    4- make a hyper stats preset with the following allocation
    Main Stat lvl 3
    Sub Stat lvl 1
    Crit Rate(lvl 1-7), if your Crit Rate is bellow 80% raise this up but NOT above lvl 7....above 7 cost too many points
    Crit Dmg, Dmg%, Boss Dmg%, set them all to lvl 5 as a start up
    IED%, lvl 7-8
    ATT/M-ATT lvl 3

    got leftover points ? evenly distribute it between dmg% and boss dmg%....alway keep ied% ahead of those 2 but NOT pass lvl 10

    5-have ZERO boss killed the day you ask to get carried(except for Hilla, Ranmaru, and Von Leon u can do them if you want)
    i be using my big drop rate characters to ensure every pieces have a 100% drop rate
    so i be running you trough the following in the following order
    N-Zak---> N-Magnus--->Chaos Horntail---> Normal Bean--->Normal Arkarium--->Hard Magnus---> CRA(Queen,Clown, Bird)----> Princess No----> Chaos Bean--->CRA(Vellum)

    About Chaos Zakum
    if by some chance Normal doesn't give you both Accessories, i will run you trough him after Hard Magnus, OTHERWISE i wont be doing C-Zak for you if you get both from Normal.....so C-Zak is conditionnal to your luck on Normal

    thats all of the requirement to meet, do the bare minimum to not make me suffer ;)

    ALL bosses beyond Chaos Vellum, i strongly recommend to get a minimum of 4000 Legion level, otherwise you might have issue with them, especially if you dont
    got access to Nobless Skills
    for Lotus/Damien: reach at least 5 millions CP for the Hard Carries, otherwise pug them up on Normal difficulty when you got about 1.5 Mil+ CP
    for Lucid, Will, Gloom watch guides on youtube, have at least 13M CP for Hard Carries
    for Dark Knell and Verus Hilla carries have at least 18M CP
    technicly you could get carried with half of these numbers, but ppl aren't rly keen on 18 mins long fights, and some carrier can't survive that long either
    so its best if you get a decent amount of cp b4 gettng carried, even if you could survive a whopping 18 mins long fight, doesn't mean your carrier can, nor mean they want to wait 18 mins after you


    alright, no more text, but ya, dont be shy to get carried for outdated bosses, its practicly barren land, even on Kronos which has 95% of the players, there not many ppl running CRA in group, especially knowing that you get 5X more tokens when duoing as the tokens wont get shared between other players
    well see you around if you decide to start over to Kronos :)
  • AlexKarevAlexKarev
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    edited November 14
    Kronos(Reboot) I do have side experiment going over there. Given in total with 80+characters across two servers AS A GM stated so.... I'm just not actively on Kronos & got my Guild "Zemuria" (check the guild rock) started over there which more characters will be added once Trails of Horizons Release in NA Jan 15 2025.

    Yep I agree I'm stuck in a server with a lot of "unhealthy players" even tho i bought my 2 Arcane weapon ^-^. given i will constantly cube it until its one of the best EVER!