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Hayato "buff"

Member, Private Tester Albinorock
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edited August 2017 in Suggestions, Feedback, and Requests
I see no changes were made to Shin being a useless skill. Bossing is done with stance + rai. Shin is weak even with the hypers.
Why isn't that changed or why is it even a skill. Why does it have hypers?
The Hitokiri change is strange..duration is nice since it was missing a 3rd hyper but the 30% cooldown. meaning can't spam anymore...is..idk im ok with that.
But, having the duration hyper at 195...wow....that's a bit high.
Counter atk won't activate on dmg reflect was needed, so thanks.
I was just hoping this "buff" would buff up Shin so Rai isn't used as much. Yeh shin is there to just heal but idk. Rai hypers would've been better over shin.

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  • Member, Private Tester Albinorock
    Albinorock
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    edited August 2017
    Also if i may add, make Battoujutsu Advance a key held down skill.
    It is very difficult to use.
    Lag is the main problem. The skill activates around 50% of the time and it gives a damage buff (the buff most of us don't get because we cannot get it to activate).
  • Member, Private Tester StellarDemon
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    edited August 2017
    Albinorock wrote: »
    Also if i may add, make Battoujutsu Advance a key held down skill.
    It is very difficult to use.
    Lag is the main problem. The skill activates around 50% of the time and it gives a damage buff (the buff most of us don't get because we cannot get it to activate).

    Yea I found that you have to use Battoujutsu Advance by clicking it every .5s to let the next skill load.
    Also as a 220 hayato main since the beginning, the hitoriki change is absolutely horrifying if it goes live.
    Also, yea I was expecting Rai dmg increase for 4th job or at least a hyper
  • Member, Private Tester Charnia
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    edited August 2017
    StellarDemon wrote: »
    Also as a 220 hayato main since the beginning, the hitoriki change is absolutely horrifying if it goes live.

    Unfortunately my Hayato main in on reboot so I can't say in terms of first hand experience.

    Is it just a nerf to its cooldown, or does hitokiri get a massive buff to its damage? And by duration, does that mean its changed to a 10 second bind with a 30 second CD? Edit: Wait, that would just be plain stupid; never mind this part. The duration increase is the critical buff right?

    I don't see a reason to change/nerf hitokiri since the spamming is mostly used for lower tier bosses like Cygnus and Crimson Queen, as well as mobs too difficult to kill like a lv200 doing VJ.

    You can't use it (or rather, you shouldn't even try) use it on bosses like Lotus or Lucid. Maps with hazards like Magnus or Pierre make it risky to spam even if you get them in a bind.
  • Member, Private Tester Occire
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    edited August 2017
    Charnia wrote: »
    Is it just a nerf to its cooldown, or does hitokiri get a massive buff to its damage?

    The cooldown cutter hyper goes from -95% to -30%. The spread hyper (extra mob hits) becomes +20 seconds on the critical buff.
  • Member, Private Tester StellarDemon
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    edited August 2017
    Charnia wrote: »
    StellarDemon wrote: »
    Also as a 220 hayato main since the beginning, the hitoriki change is absolutely horrifying if it goes live.

    Is it just a nerf to its cooldown, or does hitokiri get a massive buff to its damage? And by duration, does that mean its changed to a 10 second bind with a 30 second CD?

    Basically you can use it every 1 min to refresh the buff that lasts 1 min
    Very much against this change, I'm digging everything so far except the Hitoriki nerf
  • Member, Private Tester ComicSans
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    edited August 2017
    StellarDemon wrote: »

    Basically you can use it every 1 min to refresh the buff that lasts 1 min
    Very much against this change, I'm digging everything so far except the Hitoriki nerf
    Oh great, it's basically like another node decent skill to keep up with.

    What do you mean by "everything" that you're digging? Do you mind sharing the positive change? I don't have a hayato I can test in tespia since mine is in Reboot.
  • Member, Private Tester Kevushi
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    edited August 2017
    The hitokiri change is horrible, I don't think I would care for a longer buff and losing mobility is just sad
  • Member, Private Tester ShanghaiAlice
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    edited August 2017
    GG nexon fkn did it again, went ahead and listened to none of their Hayato player base, fkn patch went live.
  • Member, Private Tester Albinorock
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    edited August 2017
    ShanghaiAlice wrote: »
    GG nexon fkn did it again, went ahead and listened to none of their Hayato player base, fkn patch went live.

    Did you really think they would change anything in the time they had? It's either, they'll change it in time or never.