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AznboiEAznboiE
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edited January 2018 in General Chat
During the last 2x Event I used a day 2x (+100%) drop coupon with a (+100%)lucky winter while using a single 20% drop increase item and the 2x event (+100% or is it still multiplicative? We will never know but can assume it's only multiplicative at a base 100 drop and is additive when adding at least 1% drop) for an hour and got only 2 nodes (I swear I wasn't afking for 58 of those 60 minutes for those who might ask). I hear there's a drop rate bug involving decent holy symbol but it doesnt apply to me since I had those drop multipliers running at the time. Assuming it's completely additive, should come out as 320% drop? (Please don't tell me that I had 3x times my 20% drop rate item and it turned into 60% drop unless that's actually how that works because it would be depressing.) I wasted the coupon not playing maplestory for the remainder of the event period due to this outcome.

I feel as if the drop rate % aren't being applied or is being applied incorrectly as I've seen players claim to get up to 30 within an hour with only something like 180% drop and a spider familiar. That should only be like 2x (200%) drop right? versus what I had I should have gotten more than what I claimed to have.

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  • GhostAinaGhostAina
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    edited January 2018
    Despite the recent change in drop rate. I haven't noticed anything different. While I was exploring around Ludibrium, I first got a Toy Rifle from Drum Bunnies, and then a Tiger Claw from Robo all within 10 minutes (weapons I had no intention on hunting for). Not sure if it was stupid luck, but even with no drop buffs and the drop rate change, who knows that the drop rate is actually like.
  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    edited January 2018
    DHS doesnt work like drop gear. The theory is that Drop rate now works like IED, but KMS Nexon said they wont be disclosing it (the formula) in some QnA just during the time period of the changes. I believe buffs and coupons are still additive. But the gear and probably IA have diminishing returns. Another clue I believe was the cap was at 300.

    Events are also additive.

    Could be the legendary RnG cause to put into perspective, my phantom has 5 pieces of 20% drop gear and DHS (this isnt a great test run but shows insight on rng) I was killing stuff for about 1 hour, only got 0-1 node.

    Now my Night Lord, no drop gear only 10% from Showdown. within 1 minute I killed 2 mobs from chuchu slurpy forest, 2 nodes fell at the same time (two different mobs from same multi kill)

    No 2x event no exp multiplier.


    The drop rate formula was changed in the override patch I believe, but they didnt disclose the new formula probably to avoid abuse
  • RexaarRexaar
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    edited January 2018
    Based on my drop data I been collecting since the drop rate changes, 2x event appear to be multiplicative (for regular items, may or may not be the same for nodes)
    Normal Hilla, Equipment drop (lv110,120, pocket item)
    197% drop rate + 100%buff : 12,8 ,11,17,13,7 ,11,17,9 ,12,11,13,11,14,12,10,12,9 ,16,7 ,12,14,10,12,14,11
    2x event,197%+100%buff: 24,25,25,22,14,20,20,17,18,23,22,23,21,19,19,20,18,

    Normal Ranmaru, Sengoku recipe drop only
    177% + 100%Buff : 6 ,5 ,5 ,3 ,7 ,4 ,5 ,8 ,6 ,10,7 ,7 ,4 ,3 ,8 ,4 ,8 ,6 ,9 ,5 ,8 ,9 ,4 ,4 ,4 ,3 ,5 ,6 ,6
    2x event,177% + 100%buff: 9 ,14,17,10,21,17,17,11,10,13,19,23,9 ,13,18,15,10,10,18,5

    Madman Ranmaru, Sengoku recipe drop only
    177% + 100%Buff : 21,17,19,12,24,23,16,21,22,25,21,20,19
    2x event,177%,100%Buff: 44,37,43,41,46,38,43,34
  • FennekinFennekin
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    edited January 2018
    It could be a killing speed thing. Or maybe just really bad luck. Any estimates on how many mobs you killed in that hour? I remember measuring my kills per node in that one drop rate data thread, and I was getting one node per 875 kills on similar drop buffs as you (I had one more 20% drop equip, but no 2x event, so actually half what you have lol). But since I could kill 30-40k per hour, I was still getting like 30-40 nodes per hour. This was in CLP.