A message about KThxBaiNao

ObeliskDR · December 2016

Maryse said:

ObeliskDR said:

Girasol's job title was in fact changed to 'acting community manager', she left by choice because of the marvel machine mishap, to say she wasn't a CM is incredibly misleading
Well, if that's true, I don't know how I missed that as it was during my most active time on the forums, and as a Volunteer.
I even remember telling her that she should apply to become the CM but she'd always say no and that she was fine where she was.

Her title was changed on the forum, she was the communication bridge to all forums, manager of twitter, for like 6 months iirc. So yeah, I don't know how you don't remember either.

Maryse · December 2016

ObeliskDR said:
Her title was changed on the forum, she was the communication bridge to all forums, manager of twitter, for like 6 months iirc. So yeah, I don't know how you don't remember either.

Out of curiosity and for the sake of possible future arguments, I went ahead and asked her.
She confirmed to never have been CM and was indeed in production.

PlasticHolly · December 2016

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PlasticHolly said:
The timing of him helping those that lost items due to the Fredrick bug on reddit and his comment on his stream about him helpign the community with an issue that others within the company didnt appreciate and then the job description change to community manager where they no longer help on tickets make it pretty obvious that him trying to get players that lost valuable items more reasonable help and compensation was the reason
I think people are trying to look at the wrong factors. His last stream was Nov 17th, it's not on the website anymore and was done at home. Suddenly we get this new guy who clearly isnt that familiar with the game, then is fired the next day after only two streams? I do recall him saying he requested relocation because of family problems, but that isn't an offered opportunity.

In business, if they offer you telework and you take advantage of it, it's different than "Please i need to relocate but i want to do my job." Considering the november 17th stream was poorly done with many tech issues, and no longer on the website, they probably asked him to come back on his dime to do the streams. He most likely declined and tried to force them to abide to his rules.

Nothing else makes sense, even Girasol, by far the most aggressive CM we've had ever, challenged a buy to win feature and gave them an ultimatum where they let her choose to stay or not. There's no way this guy lost his job for being 'persistent'.
no, he streamed since his termination, a couple days ago
I was speaking as in, streamed on behalf of Nexon, not his personal streams. Thought that was kind of a given lol

regardless he said it had to do with him trying to do something for some members of the community and some of his superiors at nexon being unhappy about it,
They'd talk to him, not fire him for it.
he is the one that said this was the reason he was let go, i am sure others saw this stream and can conform, i have no investment in this other than for accuracy but if he says that's the reason why would you doubt that? he had nothing to gain by lying
He can't state the reason because of the NDA, he can elude to it which is as far as we know a decision, which was probably him returning since they needed him there to do streams.

regardless if his NDA forbade him from saying it or not, he still said it, and like i said i wasnt the only one in tat stream

AKradian · December 2016

ObeliskDR said:

AKradian said:

ObeliskDR said:

I think people are trying to look at the wrong factors. His last stream was Nov 17th, it's not on the website anymore and was done at home. Suddenly we get this new guy who clearly isnt that familiar with the game, then is fired the next day after only two streams? I do recall him saying he requested relocation because of family problems, but that isn't an offered opportunity.

In business, if they offer you telework and you take advantage of it, it's different than "Please i need to relocate but i want to do my job." Considering the november 17th stream was poorly done with many tech issues, and no longer on the website, they probably asked him to come back on his dime to do the streams. He most likely declined and tried to force them to abide to his rules.

Nothing else makes sense, even Girasol, by far the most aggressive CM we've had ever, challenged a buy to win feature and gave them an ultimatum where they let her choose to stay or not. There's no way this guy lost his job for being 'persistent'.
So you're saying he got fired because his internet at home wasn't ready for streaming yet? (He was working on fixing it - and has since streamed League games)
That sounds ridiculous in the extreme. "If you don't do this stream the whole patch is ruined! You must come here or else!" You're saying Nexon has its priorities so screwed up that they'd rather have no CM at all during this "biggest update since Big Bang" than have a CM that can't stream?

KThxBaiNao didn't lose his job for being persistent, though it probably made him few friends. He said he lost his job because he did something from home that his new teleworking contract specifically forbade, even though he used to do it in LA. A single action which, if he'd thought about it for one more minute (so he said) he would have not done. I assume it was something about exceeding authority (like, in LA he could just walk up to someone and tap them on the shoulder and ask them to do something, but from Washington he should have gone through the person's boss).
He already claimed on Southperry that wasn't the case though. Look when you're /offered/ telework, they typically foot the bill of travel if you have to go back to the the main destination. He told Nexon he had family issues and had to telecommunicate, so it was an opportunity, they most likely told him to come back to the main location routinely but he would have to pay for it. It also explains why they didnt let him stream again, and the "decision" he claimed in the beginning of his stream.

No, he claimed on Southperry that he didn't breach security. That is not the same as bypassing authority.

ObeliskDR · December 2016

Maryse said:

ObeliskDR said:
Her title was changed on the forum, she was the communication bridge to all forums, manager of twitter, for like 6 months iirc. So yeah, I don't know how you don't remember either.
Out of curiosity and for the sake of possible future arguments, I went ahead and asked her.
She confirmed to never have been CM and was indeed in production.

All you managed to confirm is her job pin didn't change, she still did all of the above and was acting as a community manager. Honestly this is just a petty argument of semantics and just an excuse for you to try to throw your weight around. Have anything else to add to the conversation or are you in the dark as much as anyone else around here?

OneLetter · December 2016

Due to the nature of Nexon's privacy policy regarding additional details, and as this has been up for a week, I'm now closing this and moving it to the Vault.

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