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Balancing Hurricane Classes or NerfAtkSpeed

QueQue
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edited November 2020 in Suggestions, Feedback, and Requests
Before you start screaming and malding that I'm a hurricane class (windarcher) and bias...you are right. I'm not gonna deny it, I'm mad >:(, and will be advocating for change for my hurricane-class homies out there.

As we all know...most skills, especially class-specific bursts, are designed in consideration with KMS capped attack speed at 2, making certain classes (non-hurricane classes) and skills (e.g. combo instinct, spread throw, skills that proc after a certain number of hits, etc.) to perform exceptionally well past their intentional design, creating a balance gap between hurricane and non-hurricane classes. This issue will continue to grow as new 5ths are being created with the mindset of KMS atkspeed design, as well as skills being rebalanced in KMS to have shorter casting delays.

Possible solutions? NerfAtkspeed to KMS atkspeed OR make it that hurricane-based skills is reflective to GMS capped attack speed. But lets be real here, with the current trend in GMS right now, they aint gonna buff hurricane skills. Also, with the recent memo on regarding gollux changes (November 13th, 2020), we can see GMS is beginning, or have already started, to balance the game towards KMS standards.

"If the gap between the KMS content and our exclusive GMS content is too wide, meaning the basic balance is too different, it will be challenging to continue to provide our players with exciting content. Due to these reasons, we decided to implement the set effect system change this time."

With this statement from the memo a atkspeednerf is not out of the picture considering recent trends, such as Nexon NA avoiding reintroducing pottable like the plague, gollux set changes and removal of non-kms content, it is likely that atkspeednerf will be part of nexon's agenda, which I bias-ly approve. :)
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  • YacyYacy
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    edited November 2020
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS
  • YacyYacy
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    edited November 2020
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than Nightlord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS charts.
  • JoeBidenJoeBiden
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    Don't Listen to him, folks.

    Look, here's the deal. This man is wind archer main. His class already has amazing survivability and I believe that it would be against the interest of balance to give a class insane survivability and damage at the same time. I am strongly against punishing classes that have the ability to use 0 attack speed, I do believe that hurricane classes can use a tweak in the right direction. What I am advocating for is not socialism, but fair regulation without punishing 90% of the players. Nerfing attack speed in GMS would simply be malarkey.
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dps chart u are referring to, but the latest one that was posted
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dps chart u are referring to, but the latest one that was posted have BM, Corsair,
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dps chart u are referring to, but the latest one that was posted have BM, Corsair, Wild Hunter, Phantom,
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dps chart u are referring to, but the latest one that was posted have BM, Corsair, Wild Hunter and Phantom at the near bottom, while Mercedes is in the middle of the chart
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dps chart u are referring to, but the latest one that was posted have BM, Corsair, Wild Hunter and Phantom at the near bottom, while Mercedes is in the middle of the chart. Pathfinder
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dps chart u are referring to, but the latest credible one that was posted in KMS have BM, Corsair, Wild Hunter and Phantom at the near bottom, while Mercedes is in the middle of the chart. Pathfinder and MM arent hurricane classes and they are ranked higher in the chart.
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dps chart u are referring to, but the latest credible one that was posted in KMS have BM, Corsair, Wild Hunter and Phantom at the near bottom, while Mercedes is in the middle of the chart. Pathfinder and MM arent hurricane classes and they are ranked higher in the chart. Also they might even be ranked higher since
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dps chart u are referring to, but if you want to go that way, the latest chart that was posted in KMS have BM, Corsair, Wild Hunter and Phantom at the near bottom, while Mercedes is in the middle of the chart. Pathfinder and MM arent hurricane classes and they are ranked higher in the chart. Also they might even be ranked higher since its tested with KMS atk speed and not GMS's atk speed.
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dps chart u are referring to, but if you want to go that way, the latest chart that was posted in KMS have BM, Corsair, Wild Hunter and Phantom at the near bottom, while Mercedes is decently in the middle of the chart. Pathfinder and MM arent hurricane classes and the are ranked higher in the chart than hurricane classes. Also they might even be ranked higher since its tested with KMS atk speed and not GMS's atk speed.
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dps chart u are referring to, but if you want to go that way, the latest chart that was posted in KMS have BM, Corsair, Wild Hunter and Phantom at the near bottom, while Mercedes is decently in the middle of the chart. Pathfinder and MM arent hurricane classes and are ranked higher in the chart than hurricane classes. They might also be ranked higher
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dps chart u are referring to, but if you want to go that way, the latest chart that was posted in KMS have BM, Corsair, Wild Hunter and Phantom at the near bottom, while Mercedes is decently in the middle of the chart. Statistically from the chart, it is assumed that there rank would be even lower Pathfinder and MM arent hurricane classes and are ranked higher in the chart than hurricane classes. They might also be ranked higher if the chart didn't
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dps chart u are referring to, but if you want to go that way, the latest chart that was posted in KMS have BM, Corsair, Wild Hunter and Phantom at the near bottom, while Mercedes is decently in the middle of the chart. Statistically from the chart, it is assumed that there rank would be even lower if it had replaced KMS atkspeed with GMS atkspeed. Also Pathfinder and MM arent hurricane classes and are ranked higher in the chart than hurricane classes. They might also be ranked higher if the chart didn't
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dps chart u are referring to, but if you want to go that way, the latest chart that was posted in KMS have BM, Corsair, Wild Hunter and Phantom at the near bottom, while Mercedes is decently in the middle of the chart. Statistically from the chart, it is assumed that there rank would be even lower if it had replaced KMS atkspeed with GMS atkspeed. Also Pathfinder and MM arent hurricane classes and are ranked higher in the chart than hurricane classes, and may also rank even higher with GMS atkspeed in consideration.
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dpm chart you are referring to, but if you want to go that way, the latest chart that was posted in KMS have BM, Corsair, Wild Hunter and Phantom at the near bottom, while Mercedes is decently in the middle of the chart. Statistically from the chart, it is assumed that there rank would be even lower if it had replaced KMS atkspeed with GMS atkspeed. Also Pathfinder and MM arent hurricane classes and are ranked higher in the chart than hurricane classes, and may also rank even higher with GMS atkspeed in consideration.
  • QueQue
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    edited November 2020
    Yacy wrote: »
    Idk about that my dude... BM, MM, and Pathfinder are all in a higher position than NightLord and their Spread Throw in the most recent DPS

    Don't know what dpm chart you are referring to, but if you want to go that way, the latest chart that was posted in KMS have BM, Corsair, Wild Hunter, Wind Archer and Phantom at the near bottom side-by-side, while Mercedes is decently in the middle of the chart. Statistically from the chart, it is assumed that their rank would be even lower if it had replaced KMS atkspeed with GMS atkspeed. Also, Pathfinder and MM arent hurricane classes and are ranked higher in the chart than hurricane classes, and may also rank even higher with GMS atkspeed in consideration.