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Shocking....maintenace extended

PachomarPachomar
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edited April 2017 in General Chat
Is it too much to ask to have a maintenance in the scheduled time?
And I'm 100% sure the game will have new shiny bugs whenever maintenance is over...

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  • camra94camra94
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    edited April 2017
    I was just thinking that exact same thing
  • TriforceTriforce
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    edited April 2017
    AlexF wrote: »
    They finished like 2 hours early when they did a patch last week...
    These things happen, and they've not been extending as of late.

    Rather they extend to finish patching w.e they need then need to take the game down later.

    I agree. I would rather that too.
  • NeathNeath
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    edited April 2017
    As for european, this maintenance took over whole day... Feels bad man.
    TubaMilKakao
  • camra94camra94
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    edited April 2017
    They should do this after reset some time
  • TubaTuba
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    edited April 2017
    AlexF wrote: »
    They finished like 2 hours early when they did a patch last week...
    These things happen, and they've not been extending as of late.

    Rather they extend to finish patching w.e they need then need to take the game down later.

    It's people like you that let them get away with this kind of crap lol. The problem is that they constantly extend their maintenance's for hours on end, and yes you're right these things happen, but these maintenance's should absolutely not be extended as frequently as they are. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of unscheduled maintenance's that happen that also get extended for hours. I'm pretty sure that this isn't game isn't run by a bunch of clueless, preteen kids, so why should we put up with this nonsense?
  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    edited April 2017
    As much time as they take, they always extend cash items expiration date, so besides that, there's no time limit to finishing anything in maplestory, it's an ever going game with no finish, what's the rush to get back into it? the content will be there. If any compensation will be given, and they usually give when it exceeds a reasonable amount of time.
    Elinstar
  • AKradianAKradian
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    edited April 2017
    As much time as they take, they always extend cash items expiration date, so besides that, there's no time limit to finishing anything in maplestory, it's an ever going game with no finish, what's the rush to get back into it? the content will be there. If any compensation will be given, and they usually give when it exceeds a reasonable amount of time.

    Non-cash items can expire as well.
    Profession mastery decays.
    And they keep making events where you have to participate every single day for the best rewards - and can't make up a lost day later. And the participation can take hours. 2000 kills, or 10,000 rocket points, or 100 leaves, or...
    I don't know how you can possibly say that "there's no time limit to finishing anything in maplestory". It may be true for normal content, but it's definitely not true for events.
    They've coded the game to make sure people feel pressured to play whenever possible. And then they wonder why we get upset at extended downtime?
  • DalethDaleth
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    edited April 2017
    Tuba wrote: »
    AlexF wrote: »
    They finished like 2 hours early when they did a patch last week...
    These things happen, and they've not been extending as of late.

    Rather they extend to finish patching w.e they need then need to take the game down later.

    It's people like you that let them get away with this kind of crap lol. The problem is that they constantly extend their maintenance's for hours on end, and yes you're right these things happen, but these maintenance's should absolutely not be extended as frequently as they are. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of unscheduled maintenance's that happen that also get extended for hours. I'm pretty sure that this isn't game isn't run by a bunch of clueless, preteen kids, so why should customers put up with this nonsense.

    I can respect your opinion, but I work in back end software development and when you have a source project as big as maplestory's back end server, it can get really tricky, even with a team of 20 people (or especially) it's easy to make the simplest mistake, like checking if your level is >= 200 for arcane river, or accidentally missing the = and saying >200 for arcane river making only level 201 or higher able to do it. It's a shame that it's like that, but have some heart for the people who sit behind a desk 9 to 5 every day trying to make a game we all take for granted work perfectly. No code is perfect, no matter how clean, or how functional, and that is simply because no human is perfect. and if you think to yourself "hey they should have someone check that every time, duh!" well, they do, and I'll tell you that some classes can be thousands of lines long, it's like spell/grammar checking a entire book -- except a book has a clear front to back system whereas code is complexly interwoven, it's easy to miss a bug and frankly they've been working off the same code for over a decade, it is likely unimaginably huge, so searching it all is very time consuming and difficult.

    Long story short: Nexon is just a group of human beings under the same flag, and the ones you see are rarely if ever the ones who actually put the code into the game.

    This is all obviously excluding the giant realm of hardware failure, system updates, and more things that are simply out of their control.

    I hope that gives you some perspective on it all :)
    ElinstarAngelRose59
  • DaisukeHarutoDaisukeHaruto
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    edited April 2017
    Pachomar wrote: »
    Is it too much to ask to have a maintenance in the scheduled time?
    And I'm 100% sure the game will have new shiny bugs whenever maintenance is over...

    Jenkins! I need more polish on these bugs we fixed.. We did not want the players to recognise them... Oh and paint that one pink for the event.
  • GirthquakeGirthquake
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    edited April 2017
    Pachomar wrote: »
    Is it too much to ask to have a maintenance in the scheduled time?
    And I'm 100% sure the game will have new shiny bugs whenever maintenance is over...

    Jenkins! I need more polish on these bugs we fixed.. We did not want the players to recognise them... Oh and paint that one pink for the event.

    99 bugs in the code on the wall, 99 bugs in the code
    take one down, patch it around
    856 bugs in the code on the wall
    Daleth
  • DalethDaleth
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    edited April 2017
    Girthquake wrote: »
    Pachomar wrote: »
    Is it too much to ask to have a maintenance in the scheduled time?
    And I'm 100% sure the game will have new shiny bugs whenever maintenance is over...

    Jenkins! I need more polish on these bugs we fixed.. We did not want the players to recognise them... Oh and paint that one pink for the event.

    99 bugs in the code on the wall, 99 bugs in the code
    take one down, patch it around
    856 bugs in the code on the wall

    More or less, this is how it is.
  • ArwooArwoo
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    edited April 2017
    Greetings, everyone! We estimate a maintenance completion time of around 11:30AM – 12:00PM PDT.
    We apologize for the extension and hope to see everyone in-game when it's up!

    Thank you,

    Arwoooo~
    Daleth
  • DalethDaleth
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    edited April 2017
    Arwoo wrote: »
    Greetings, everyone! We estimate a maintenance completion time of around 11:30AM – 12:00PM PDT.
    We apologize for the extension and hope to see everyone in-game when it's up!

    Thank you,

    Arwoooo~

    Neat thanks!

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  • MageOfBattlesMageOfBattles
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    edited April 2017
    (I'm not sure what happened to my post, but I'm just gonna try reposting)
  • DalethDaleth
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    edited April 2017
    Daleth wrote: »

    ~snip~

    I think that the main point that we're trying to make is that these people are being paid to deal with this enormous server. I'm not trying to say that it's ludicrous that they make mistakes. Yet at the same time, as mentioned previously, the extensions happen incredibly frequently. It starts to get to the point where you start to wonder what's going on that requires an extension almost every, single, time. A lot of maplers are used to this kind of situation, but go to nearly any other corporation or business, and this wouldn't be tolerated at all. Even if the content or product is free. There's a fine line between entitlement, and reasonable expectations. You can find people that fall on either side of the spectrum, but in the case of wanting maintenance times to not be extended, repeatedly, I don't think it falls under entitlement.


    and yeah, I understand and acknowledge that, I was just trying to put some perspective in place.
  • MageOfBattlesMageOfBattles
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    edited April 2017
    Daleth wrote: »

    ~snip~

    I think that the main point that we're trying to make is that these people are being paid to deal with this enormous server. I'm not trying to say that it's ludicrous that they make mistakes. Yet at the same time, as mentioned previously, the extensions happen incredibly frequently. It starts to get to the point where you start to wonder what's going on that requires an extension almost every, single, time. A lot of maplers are used to this kind of situation, but go to nearly any other corporation or business, and this wouldn't be tolerated at all. Even if the content or product is free. There's a fine line between entitlement, and reasonable expectations. You can find people that fall on either side of the spectrum, but in the case of wanting maintenance times to not be extended, repeatedly, I don't think it falls under entitlement.
  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    edited April 2017
    AKradian wrote: »
    As much time as they take, they always extend cash items expiration date, so besides that, there's no time limit to finishing anything in maplestory, it's an ever going game with no finish, what's the rush to get back into it? the content will be there. If any compensation will be given, and they usually give when it exceeds a reasonable amount of time.

    Non-cash items can expire as well.
    Profession mastery decays.
    And they keep making events where you have to participate every single day for the best rewards - and can't make up a lost day later. And the participation can take hours. 2000 kills, or 10,000 rocket points, or 100 leaves, or...
    I don't know how you can possibly say that "there's no time limit to finishing anything in maplestory". It may be true for normal content, but it's definitely not true for events.
    They've coded the game to make sure people feel pressured to play whenever possible. And then they wonder why we get upset at extended downtime?

    It takes me only 5 runs in dipq to get 10k points, it doesnt take more than 30 minutes to defeat 2000 monsters. as for mastery, thats collateral damage, however not a major loss
  • AKradianAKradian
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    edited April 2017
    AKradian wrote: »
    As much time as they take, they always extend cash items expiration date, so besides that, there's no time limit to finishing anything in maplestory, it's an ever going game with no finish, what's the rush to get back into it? the content will be there. If any compensation will be given, and they usually give when it exceeds a reasonable amount of time.

    Non-cash items can expire as well.
    Profession mastery decays.
    And they keep making events where you have to participate every single day for the best rewards - and can't make up a lost day later. And the participation can take hours. 2000 kills, or 10,000 rocket points, or 100 leaves, or...
    I don't know how you can possibly say that "there's no time limit to finishing anything in maplestory". It may be true for normal content, but it's definitely not true for events.
    They've coded the game to make sure people feel pressured to play whenever possible. And then they wonder why we get upset at extended downtime?

    It takes me only 5 runs in dipq to get 10k points, it doesnt take more than 30 minutes to defeat 2000 monsters. as for mastery, thats collateral damage, however not a major loss

    I like how you ignored the 100 leaves, which require 4 "rain showers", so at least 3 hours.
    And just because it's quick for you doesn't mean it's quick for everyone. Nor does everyone have 24 hours a day free to Maple.
    AlexF
  • DalethDaleth
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    edited April 2017
    AlexF wrote: »
    I hope everyone can get enough leaves for today~. I think you have an extra 2 weeks ish to turn in the leaves? 15 days of Max is what's required to complete the event.

    I really hope you're mistaken about that because those numbers don't line up...
  • ArwooArwoo
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    edited April 2017
    Game is up!
    Daleth