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Enduring Spirit not actually increasing DEF

iagothedunkeyiagothedunkey
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edited March 2017 in Bug Reporting
Bug type: Skill error, defense calculation
Brief bug summary: Skill "Enduring Spirit" not working properly.
Description: When you use the skill "Enduring Spirit", it's supposed to increase your character's Weapon DEF by 100% but the monsters still hit you by the same amount before you had the buff active even tho the change in DEF does appear in the stats tab.
Character name: AmazingAnt

Character level: 155

Character job: Mihile

World name: Reboot

Screenshots:
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With buff

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Comments

  • tijack1tijack1
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    edited June 2017
    same here. :( when are they gonna fix it!?
  • RexaarRexaar
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    edited June 2017
    Please try again on a monster that does more damage, or give yourself less defense.
    https://strategywiki.org/wiki/MapleStory/Formulas#Monster.27s_Damage
    Maximum damage protection from DEF alone is 84.5% of the Monster's ATT Value (before absorption damage)
    Minimum Max monster damage is 15.5% of the Monster's ATT Value.
    Minimum Min monster damage is 13.175% (15.5%×0.85) of the Monster's ATT Value.

    http://maplestory.wikia.com/wiki/Memory_Monk
    Memory Monk attack: 3746
    Max damage it can do when your DEF is too high 3746 * 0.155 = 580.63
    Min damage it can do when your DEF is too high 3746 * 0.13175 = 493.53
  • tijack1tijack1
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    edited June 2017
    Rexaar wrote: »
    Please try again on a monster that does more damage, or give yourself less defense.
    https://strategywiki.org/wiki/MapleStory/Formulas#Monster.27s_Damage
    Maximum damage protection from DEF alone is 84.5% of the Monster's ATT Value (before absorption damage)
    Minimum Max monster damage is 15.5% of the Monster's ATT Value.
    Minimum Min monster damage is 13.175% (15.5%×0.85) of the Monster's ATT Value.

    http://maplestory.wikia.com/wiki/Memory_Monk
    Memory Monk attack: 3746
    Max damage it can do when your DEF is too high 3746 * 0.155 = 580.63
    Min damage it can do when your DEF is too high 3746 * 0.13175 = 493.53

    I'm level 85 Mihile and I'm training at sunset road Sahel 2 i just took off all my equipment and i took the sane amount of damage as if i were wearing my equipment. So what I'm concluding is that Mihile DEF mechanism as a whole is a glitch.

    w/o equipment DEF:1315
    with equipment DEF: 2424
  • thrakkesthrakkes
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    edited June 2017
    Seeing the dmg received on both pictures, there should be a bigger difference , maybe in the 300s with having double defense idk.

    Also, did you try on another class?
  • RexaarRexaar
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    edited June 2017

    I'm level 85 Mihile and I'm training at sunset road Sahel 2 i just took off all my equipment and i took the sane amount of damage as if i were wearing my equipment. So what I'm concluding is that Mihile DEF mechanism as a whole is a glitch.

    w/o equipment DEF:1315
    with equipment DEF: 2424

    http://maplestory.wikia.com/wiki/Scorpion, 704 attack
    http://maplestory.wikia.com/wiki/Sand_Rat, 691 attack

    Max damage they can do when your DEF is too high 704 * 0.155 = 109.13
    Min damage they can do when your DEF is too high 704 * 0.13175 = 92.752
    Minimum defense needed to make them do minimum damage: around 550

    You already have too much defense without the buff to take more than minimum damage.

    My experiment:
    Mihile, lv 128
    At skelegon, lv 147, 3199 attack
    2146 defense, average damage taken: 1000
    4292 defense (Enduring Spirit active), average damage taken: 500
    When defense is high enough, the lowest damage Skelegon can inflict is 3199 * 0.155 = 495.845

    At Wandering Fire Raccoon (lv 161, 8296 attack)
    3117 defense, average damage taken: 5000
    6144 defense (Enduring Spirit active), average damage taken: 3800
    When defense is high enough, the lowest damage Wandering Fire Racoon can inflict is 8296 * 0.155 = 1285.88

    Enduring Spirit is working as intended, it just that Mihile gain enough defense through str and equipment alone (each point of str also give 1.5 defense) without the buff to reduce all monster damage to minimum (15.5% of their original attack) for a really really long time (monster up to to lv 150).
  • tijack1tijack1
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    edited July 2017
    there's no more point in having more DEF than.