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BRING BACK OLD MAPLE WEDDINGS

rizariza
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edited December 2018 in Suggestions, Feedback, and Requests
Today we have a special treat for the community!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now, this topic has been a topic not too many people talked about and shoot I'm just going to do it :D Now looking back at our greatest former asset wedding "fangblade" it made me think why can't we have something just as amazing and great anymore. So it made me very passionate and very eager and honored to bring this up as many people had sad the same thing. What happened to old maple weddings? Now we all know old maple weddings were the ish. Like You had a big limo, A lot of friends up to 30 or 50 can attend and drop off gifts at the wedding and also it was very community "omg I love that word" friendly. Now me being who I am and We being who we are, we have a choice to make should we bring back maple weddings back to its former glory or should we just leave it complete trash. I had 3 weddings and all were ok not too fancy. My first wedding great, second very quick and 3rd was a horror story. But enough about me let us talk about us which is should we bring back maple weddings I post 2 videos of the 2 type of weddings and we all decide from looking at it what we can do. Remember maybe if we put our voices together we can have something amazing ;)



  1. Should we bring back old maple wedding and better?8 votes
    1. Yes absolutely We community have a voice
       50% (4 votes)
    2. Im sour and dont have a voice so no Keep it the same
       50% (4 votes)

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  • FuhreakFuhreak
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    edited December 2018
    1. Doesn't this belong in Suggestions?

    2. Can people please stop placing memes or disrespectful things in the polls for suggestions?
    Do you want the developers to take your thread seriously, or not?
  • rizariza
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    edited December 2018
    Fuhreak wrote: »
    1. Doesn't this belong in Suggestions?

    2. Can people please stop placing memes or disrespectful things in the polls for suggestions?
    Do you want the developers to take your thread seriously, or not?

    1. Wait I thought this was a general topic as it's already in the game?
    2. I'm not meme and no idea how meme is part of this-this is a general thing we have in the game. I was only asking if we should bring back the old wedding system. As I showed a comparison with the fang blade wedding and modern day wedding. Old wedding systems were more active and fun. You can use the stands, walk down the path, fight mobs, have a room ceremony, and then collect gifts and hang out. If you watched the fang blade video you can see there was more stuff to do at the wedding. I mean if most would take time to see the content and judge after it is easier to make a better assessment of the content and come up with rational ideas.

    Again leave a vote in polls and say your opinion on the idea of bringing back the old marriage system I think this is suggestions but also a general topic as it's generally in the game atm just not a good system. Again leave your vote and opinion ;)
  • FuhreakFuhreak
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    edited December 2018
    riza wrote: »
    Fuhreak wrote: »
    1. Doesn't this belong in Suggestions?

    2. Can people please stop placing memes or disrespectful things in the polls for suggestions?
    Do you want the developers to take your thread seriously, or not?

    1. Wait I thought this was a general topic as it's already in the game?
    2. I'm not meme and no idea how meme is part of this-this is a general thing we have in the game. I was only asking if we should bring back the old wedding system. As I showed a comparison with the fang blade wedding and modern day wedding. Old wedding systems were more active and fun. You can use the stands, walk down the path, fight mobs, have a room ceremony, and then collect gifts and hang out. If you watched the fang blade video you can see there was more stuff to do at the wedding. I mean if most would take time to see the content and judge after it is easier to make a better assessment of the content and come up with rational ideas.

    Again leave a vote in polls and say your opinion on the idea of bringing back the old marriage system I think this is suggestions but also a general topic as it's generally in the game atm just not a good system. Again leave your vote and opinion ;)

    It's a suggestion, because you're advocating a change within the game, you aren't just simply talking about the game as is.

    See the second part of 2. You disrespect those with a difference of opinion than your own by placing words into their mouth. A simple "yes" or "no" would have worked fine.
    SlicedTimeYinYangX
  • rizariza
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    edited December 2018
    Fuhreak wrote: »
    riza wrote: »
    Fuhreak wrote: »
    1. Doesn't this belong in Suggestions?

    2. Can people please stop placing memes or disrespectful things in the polls for suggestions?
    Do you want the developers to take your thread seriously, or not?

    1. Wait I thought this was a general topic as it's already in the game?
    2. I'm not meme and no idea how meme is part of this-this is a general thing we have in the game. I was only asking if we should bring back the old wedding system. As I showed a comparison with the fang blade wedding and modern day wedding. Old wedding systems were more active and fun. You can use the stands, walk down the path, fight mobs, have a room ceremony, and then collect gifts and hang out. If you watched the fang blade video you can see there was more stuff to do at the wedding. I mean if most would take time to see the content and judge after it is easier to make a better assessment of the content and come up with rational ideas.

    Again leave a vote in polls and say your opinion on the idea of bringing back the old marriage system I think this is suggestions but also a general topic as it's generally in the game atm just not a good system. Again leave your vote and opinion ;)

    It's a suggestion, because you're advocating a change within the game, you aren't just simply talking about the game as is.

    See the second part of 2. You disrespect those with a difference of opinion than your own by placing words into their mouth. A simple "yes" or "no" would have worked fine.

    Well, here the thing. I wasn't really putting words in anyone mouth I only went into the context of what I posted this about also I have a feeling while your posting here a lot there is an intention. It can mean you're trying to help and trying to see this topic and maybe suggesting it to be a move to suggestions which is fine, or maybe there can be a provocation to maybe get me to message a lot to get a ban like I seen a lot of people referring to in the chats. if it is in the wrong spot I'm sure it can be move and we can continue this discussion as it is a great idea. But again if you like or dislike leave a vote and comments on the topic.
  • ShroomsterShroomster
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    edited December 2018
    Im sour and dont have a voice so no Keep it the same
    I'm curious riza, can you read?

    You are obviously insulting anyone with a differing opinion than yours in an attempt (although probably no a conscious one) to load the voting to match in your desired opinion
    SlicedTimeYinYangX
  • rizariza
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    edited December 2018
    Shroomster wrote: »
    Im sour and dont have a voice so no Keep it the same
    I'm curious riza, can you read?

    You are obviously insulting anyone with a differing opinion than yours in an attempt (although probably no a conscious one) to load the voting to match in your desired opinion

    I can adjust it if you want so we can make it a lil more fair but thanks for your input as a community member I will change it for you :D

    I edit this but yea from what I seen I cant fix poll names so I mean just do yes or no sorry for not being able to change it :(
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited December 2018
    Who even actually cares about weddings outside of whales and their whale friends? If not for onyx apples being the primary reason anyone does apq anymore, I would say dumpster the entire system.

    And this is a suggestion, even though you're acting like you demand they do this, it doesn't belong in general.
  • PirateIzzyPirateIzzy
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    edited December 2018
    WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND THAT NEXON BRING BACK OLD MAPLE WEDDINGS. WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PAY 30 BUCKS WITHOUT LETTING THOSE PLEBS GET A FREE TICKET FROM EVENTS! HOW ELSE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO VALIDATE OURSELVES IN THIS GAME WITHOUT SPENDING MONEY ON MULTIPLE IN-GAME MARRIAGES? ANYONE WITHOUT A VOICE WHO THINKS IT SHOULD BE THE SAME SHOULD BE SENT TO THE GULAG!
  • rizariza
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    edited December 2018
    PirateIzzy wrote: »
    WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND THAT NEXON BRING BACK OLD MAPLE WEDDINGS. WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PAY 30 BUCKS WITHOUT LETTING THOSE PLEBS GET A FREE TICKET FROM EVENTS! HOW ELSE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO VALIDATE OURSELVES IN THIS GAME WITHOUT SPENDING MONEY ON MULTIPLE IN-GAME MARRIAGES? ANYONE WITHOUT A VOICE WHO THINKS IT SHOULD BE THE SAME SHOULD BE SENT TO THE GULAG!


    I mean If you're serious I agree with bringing it back and I mean yea I'm all for it. Let us support and bring back it to our community :D
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    Aggraphine wrote: »
    Who even actually cares about weddings outside of whales and their whale friends? If not for onyx apples being the primary reason anyone does apq anymore, I would say dumpster the entire system.

    And this is a suggestion, even though you're acting like you demand they do this, it doesn't belong in general.

    I mean you are right about the apples and it not being too good. But that's why this thread is here so we can brainstorm and come up with some logical and rational ideas to help fix the system.
  • PirateIzzyPirateIzzy
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    edited December 2018
    riza wrote: »
    I mean If you're serious I agree with bringing it back and I mean yea I'm all for it. Let us support and bring back it to our community :D

    HELL YEAH BORTHER! WE NEED TO CONNECT AS ONE AND MAKE SURE CHANGES AREN'T MADE FOR THE WORSE FOR OUR PEOPLE! VIVE LA REVOLUTION!
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  • rizariza
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    edited December 2018
    PirateIzzy wrote: »
    riza wrote: »
    I mean If you're serious I agree with bringing it back and I mean yea I'm all for it. Let us support and bring back it to our community :D

    HELL YEAH BORTHER! WE NEED TO CONNECT AS ONE AND MAKE SURE CHANGES AREN'T MADE FOR THE WORSE FOR OUR PEOPLE! VIVE LA REVOLUTION!
    raised-fist-logo-vector.png

    omg that line almost made me cry YES WE CAN DO IT IM NOT THE GREATEST UNLESS WE ARE GREAT TOGETHER LETS COMBINE OUR COMMUNITY AND DO SOME GREAT FOR EVERYONE AND SHOUT OUT TO THE SUPPORTERS OF COMMUNITY AND MARRIAGE!!!!
  • CrescCresc
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    edited December 2018
    riza wrote: »
    PirateIzzy wrote: »
    riza wrote: »
    I mean If you're serious I agree with bringing it back and I mean yea I'm all for it. Let us support and bring back it to our community :D

    HELL YEAH BORTHER! WE NEED TO CONNECT AS ONE AND MAKE SURE CHANGES AREN'T MADE FOR THE WORSE FOR OUR PEOPLE! VIVE LA REVOLUTION!
    raised-fist-logo-vector.png

    omg that line almost made me cry YES WE CAN DO IT IM NOT THE GREATEST UNLESS WE ARE GREAT TOGETHER LETS COMBINE OUR COMMUNITY AND DO SOME GREAT FOR EVERYONE AND SHOUT OUT TO THE SUPPORTERS OF COMMUNITY AND MARRIAGE!!!!

    you are indeed the voice of the voiceless. you have my support
  • rizariza
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    edited December 2018
    Cresc wrote: »
    riza wrote: »
    PirateIzzy wrote: »
    riza wrote: »
    I mean If you're serious I agree with bringing it back and I mean yea I'm all for it. Let us support and bring back it to our community :D

    HELL YEAH BORTHER! WE NEED TO CONNECT AS ONE AND MAKE SURE CHANGES AREN'T MADE FOR THE WORSE FOR OUR PEOPLE! VIVE LA REVOLUTION!
    raised-fist-logo-vector.png

    omg that line almost made me cry YES WE CAN DO IT IM NOT THE GREATEST UNLESS WE ARE GREAT TOGETHER LETS COMBINE OUR COMMUNITY AND DO SOME GREAT FOR EVERYONE AND SHOUT OUT TO THE SUPPORTERS OF COMMUNITY AND MARRIAGE!!!!

    you are indeed the voice of the voiceless. you have my support

    Thx we together as a community will do great things also I will announce a great bera event taking place during the Christmas weekend as well as a wedding :D But yes lets combine our efforts and make maple great again!!!!
  • AKradianAKradian
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    edited December 2018
    When the wedding system was revamped, many people voiced sentiments similar to your own. From the brief ceremony with few guests, to the ugly new wedding ring effect, everyone agreed that it was not nearly as fun or as emotionally satisfying as the old system.
    Unfortunately, the new system is what KMS has, and Nexon did not want to go back to our exclusive system. On the contrary: they recently removed even our roundabout access to Amoria town, with its unique quests and its hair salon offering exclusive styles.
    I will forward this suggestion. But I fear that, with Nexon's current trend towards matching as much of our content as possible with KMS, for good or bad (for example, we got the flames and stars we've been wanting for a long time, but lost Singapore), there is next to no chance of it being accepted.


    And a few words to some of the people in this thread:
    Harassment/Flaming/Trolling
    - Baiting players to flame; derailing threads to incite an argument or negative behavior; and simply for the sake of causing trouble are not behavior accepted on the Nexon forums.
    It's true that Riza used to post in a very annoying manner. He was warned and temp-banned for it.
    It appears he has understood what he was doing wrong, and is now attempting to reform.
    Do not try to bait him into relapsing.
    It would be much better to have him as a contributing member on these forums, rather than permanently banned.
    FuhreakInvulgoSlicedTimeYinYangX
  • Instinct9001Instinct9001
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    edited December 2018
    riza wrote: »
    Shroomster wrote: »
    Im sour and dont have a voice so no Keep it the same
    I'm curious riza, can you read?

    You are obviously insulting anyone with a differing opinion than yours in an attempt (although probably no a conscious one) to load the voting to match in your desired opinion

    I can adjust it if you want so we can make it a lil more fair but thanks for your input as a community member I will change it for you :D

    I edit this but yea from what I seen I cant fix poll names so I mean just do yes or no sorry for not being able to change it :(

    Isn't choosing 'im sour and don't have a voice' contradictory as you are using your opinion to choose this option, ultimately demonstrating you have a voice in this subject matter? To the previous poster, I find it hard to believe Riza is trying to 'reform' based off of this thread, and in fact find this contrary to reformation and rather rude to anyone who doesn't share the same opinion as Riza based off the poll options... If this is considered a step in a positive direction we must have a really low standard for Riza, and etiquette on this forum.

    As for the suggestion, It is a bad idea, weddings between players in general in a video game is a terrible idea. Anecdotally I have met many maplers that are delusional about the 'intimate' relationships they have with other players, thinking they are in a real relationship and that the other person will come and fly over to visit them one day. How are we going to perpetuate such a delusional mindset by allowing them to equate marriage to their relationship? The solution is more friendship rings, and replacing marriages with someone less misleading, like 'partner' rings would be more than suffice. I understand this can be a provocative suggestion/feedback however lets not downplay how committed people are to this game. The other side to that is other aspects of their life will compromise for this game. By allowing them to marry others in the game, they are even further removed from society in the real world. I know most of you aren't keen on the mental health arguments against video games, as you are gamers, but acknowledge the cognitive dissonance, a partner in real life is light years beyond maple marriages in terms of quality, genuineness, physical interaction and intimacy , and maple marriages may act as a barrier for attaining such real life relationships. Therefore, I suggest we just scrap these marriages altogether.
    SlicedTime
  • rizariza
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    edited December 2018
    AKradian wrote: »
    When the wedding system was revamped, many people voiced sentiments similar to your own. From the brief ceremony with few guests, to the ugly new wedding ring effect, everyone agreed that it was not nearly as fun or as emotionally satisfying as the old system.
    Unfortunately, the new system is what KMS has, and Nexon did not want to go back to our exclusive system. On the contrary: they recently removed even our roundabout access to Amoria town, with its unique quests and its hair salon offering exclusive styles.
    I will forward this suggestion. But I fear that, with Nexon's current trend towards matching as much of our content as possible with KMS, for good or bad (for example, we got the flames and stars we've been wanting for a long time, but lost Singapore), there is next to no chance of it being accepted.


    And a few words to some of the people in this thread:
    Harassment/Flaming/Trolling
    - Baiting players to flame; derailing threads to incite an argument or negative behavior; and simply for the sake of causing trouble are not behavior accepted on the Nexon forums.
    It's true that Riza used to post in a very annoying manner. He was warned and temp-banned for it.
    It appears he has understood what he was doing wrong, and is now attempting to reform.
    Do not try to bait him into relapsing.
    It would be much better to have him as a contributing member on these forums, rather than permanently banned.

    Thx :D I mean as the voice I definitely trying to keep it civil and trying to just see everyone opinion and to see if we could come up with something cause bera plan to have a few Christmas weddings "including mine" so yea just looking for ideas and see if in the coming year we have something good planned for weddings.
    riza wrote: »
    Shroomster wrote: »
    Im sour and dont have a voice so no Keep it the same
    I'm curious riza, can you read?

    You are obviously insulting anyone with a differing opinion than yours in an attempt (although probably no a conscious one) to load the voting to match in your desired opinion

    I can adjust it if you want so we can make it a lil more fair but thanks for your input as a community member I will change it for you :D

    I edit this but yea from what I seen I cant fix poll names so I mean just do yes or no sorry for not being able to change it :(

    Isn't choosing 'im sour and don't have a voice' contradictory as you are using your opinion to choose this option, ultimately demonstrating you have a voice in this subject matter? To the previous poster, I find it hard to believe Riza is trying to 'reform' based off of this thread, and in fact find this contrary to reformation and rather rude to anyone who doesn't share the same opinion as Riza based off the poll options... If this is considered a step in a positive direction we must have a really low standard for Riza, and etiquette on this forum.

    As for the suggestion, It is a bad idea, weddings between players in general in a video game is a terrible idea. Anecdotally I have met many maplers that are delusional about the 'intimate' relationships they have with other players, thinking they are in a real relationship and that the other person will come and fly over to visit them one day. How are we going to perpetuate such a delusional mindset by allowing them to equate marriage to their relationship? The solution is more friendship rings, and replacing marriages with someone less misleading, like 'partner' rings would be more than suffice. I understand this can be a provocative suggestion/feedback however lets not downplay how committed people are to this game. The other side to that is other aspects of their life will compromise for this game. By allowing them to marry others in the game, they are even further removed from society in the real world. I know most of you aren't keen on the mental health arguments against video games, as you are gamers, but acknowledge the cognitive dissonance, a partner in real life is light years beyond maple marriages in terms of quality, genuineness, physical interaction and intimacy , and maple marriages may act as a barrier for attaining such real life relationships. Therefore, I suggest we just scrap these marriages altogether.

    And like I mentioned before I had tried to change the poll but I cant so sorry about that :( But I had met or actually had about 10-50 people in my old ally who were kinda like you mentioned and got made fun for it. I mean if someone wants to believe it so in a game who am I too judge :/ I mean if someone wants to enjoy the game and play the character I mean more power for them its called MapleStory for a reason we come up and make our own stories and some people will adapt to it. Being an actor my self I see it more as practicing lmao. But yea I met a few of those people I don't think its cognitive dissonance to pretend or play a part but more of getting into or involved in your role. I mean when I see people come after me and say I'm a narcissist I do sometimes "I admit" play the role just to joke around doesn't really mean I'm that way. I think people get too emotional on others happiness. If I saw 2 people in MapleStory think or act like their a real married couple and they are enjoying the game, their healthy and happy and not bothering no one, then who am I to ruin that for them? I had defended a lot of people from being bullied from that mindset not trying to flame war but only saying that the way of thinking to ruin someone else's fun isn't nice. There is a girl who was in my ally who was obsessed with Magnus and now with will the boss. IS it right for me to tell that girl she's insane and that she needs to get a real life boyfriend and take some meds>.<. I mean we just have to let people have their fun and enjoy themselves. Look at it like this if you weren't invested in getting in other people business and getting too emotional about it we wouldn't have flame wars or hate in the community. But yea the voice of the people and voiceless has spoken and we as a community will decide if we will leave people to have their fun or if we will always get in their business and make fun of them. Up to you all to decide ;)
  • Instinct9001Instinct9001
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    edited December 2018
    riza wrote: »
    AKradian wrote: »
    When the wedding system was revamped, many people voiced sentiments similar to your own. From the brief ceremony with few guests, to the ugly new wedding ring effect, everyone agreed that it was not nearly as fun or as emotionally satisfying as the old system.
    Unfortunately, the new system is what KMS has, and Nexon did not want to go back to our exclusive system. On the contrary: they recently removed even our roundabout access to Amoria town, with its unique quests and its hair salon offering exclusive styles.
    I will forward this suggestion. But I fear that, with Nexon's current trend towards matching as much of our content as possible with KMS, for good or bad (for example, we got the flames and stars we've been wanting for a long time, but lost Singapore), there is next to no chance of it being accepted.


    And a few words to some of the people in this thread:
    Harassment/Flaming/Trolling
    - Baiting players to flame; derailing threads to incite an argument or negative behavior; and simply for the sake of causing trouble are not behavior accepted on the Nexon forums.
    It's true that Riza used to post in a very annoying manner. He was warned and temp-banned for it.
    It appears he has understood what he was doing wrong, and is now attempting to reform.
    Do not try to bait him into relapsing.
    It would be much better to have him as a contributing member on these forums, rather than permanently banned.

    Thx :D I mean as the voice I definitely trying to keep it civil and trying to just see everyone opinion and to see if we could come up with something cause bera plan to have a few Christmas weddings "including mine" so yea just looking for ideas and see if in the coming year we have something good planned for weddings.
    riza wrote: »
    Shroomster wrote: »
    Im sour and dont have a voice so no Keep it the same
    I'm curious riza, can you read?

    You are obviously insulting anyone with a differing opinion than yours in an attempt (although probably no a conscious one) to load the voting to match in your desired opinion

    I can adjust it if you want so we can make it a lil more fair but thanks for your input as a community member I will change it for you :D

    I edit this but yea from what I seen I cant fix poll names so I mean just do yes or no sorry for not being able to change it :(

    Isn't choosing 'im sour and don't have a voice' contradictory as you are using your opinion to choose this option, ultimately demonstrating you have a voice in this subject matter? To the previous poster, I find it hard to believe Riza is trying to 'reform' based off of this thread, and in fact find this contrary to reformation and rather rude to anyone who doesn't share the same opinion as Riza based off the poll options... If this is considered a step in a positive direction we must have a really low standard for Riza, and etiquette on this forum.

    As for the suggestion, It is a bad idea, weddings between players in general in a video game is a terrible idea. Anecdotally I have met many maplers that are delusional about the 'intimate' relationships they have with other players, thinking they are in a real relationship and that the other person will come and fly over to visit them one day. How are we going to perpetuate such a delusional mindset by allowing them to equate marriage to their relationship? The solution is more friendship rings, and replacing marriages with someone less misleading, like 'partner' rings would be more than suffice. I understand this can be a provocative suggestion/feedback however lets not downplay how committed people are to this game. The other side to that is other aspects of their life will compromise for this game. By allowing them to marry others in the game, they are even further removed from society in the real world. I know most of you aren't keen on the mental health arguments against video games, as you are gamers, but acknowledge the cognitive dissonance, a partner in real life is light years beyond maple marriages in terms of quality, genuineness, physical interaction and intimacy , and maple marriages may act as a barrier for attaining such real life relationships. Therefore, I suggest we just scrap these marriages altogether.

    And like I mentioned before I had tried to change the poll but I cant so sorry about that :( But I had met or actually had about 10-50 people in my old ally who were kinda like you mentioned and got made fun for it. I mean if someone wants to believe it so in a game who am I too judge :/ I mean if someone wants to enjoy the game and play the character I mean more power for them its called MapleStory for a reason we come up and make our own stories and some people will adapt to it. Being an actor my self I see it more as practicing lmao. But yea I met a few of those people I don't think its cognitive dissonance to pretend or play a part but more of getting into or involved in your role. I mean when I see people come after me and say I'm a narcissist I do sometimes "I admit" play the role just to joke around doesn't really mean I'm that way. I think people get too emotional on others happiness. If I saw 2 people in MapleStory think or act like their a real married couple and they are enjoying the game, their healthy and happy and not bothering no one, then who am I to ruin that for them? I had defended a lot of people from being bullied from that mindset not trying to flame war but only saying that the way of thinking to ruin someone else's fun isn't nice. There is a girl who was in my ally who was obsessed with Magnus and now with will the boss. IS it right for me to tell that girl she's insane and that she needs to get a real life boyfriend and take some meds>.<. I mean we just have to let people have their fun and enjoy themselves. Look at it like this if you weren't invested in getting in other people business and getting too emotional about it we wouldn't have flame wars or hate in the community. But yea the voice of the people and voiceless has spoken and we as a community will decide if we will leave people to have their fun or if we will always get in their business and make fun of them. Up to you all to decide ;)

    Good on you for trying to correct it, Don't think this is the right thread to give you credit for reformation considering the poll options however, I'm sure you'll have other times to prove yourself to the forum community though.

    I would not make fun of someone for indulging an online marriage, and I would not judge them in a way that specifically targets an individual, but rather I am judging the concept of marriage in these video games as perpetuating an unhealthy attachment to the game as well as a further disconnect from other possible real, physical relationships one could attain in real life. It also leaves maplers susceptible to cat phishing and those sorts of false representations of who you are chatting with.

    In reference to your bolded text, I do not think you would ever be presented with that opportunity. A fair share of maplers do take there maple-romances relatively seriously, but a random player would not be able to witness their health and happiness, and generally speaking neither can their maple spouse. This is because they are married to someone in a video game, and have minimal physical, genuine face-time interaction. The reality is there is maplers taking their relationships very seriously, while they also have never met the person, maybe never even skyped with the person, and are stuck viewing their spouse in relation to how that person is perceiving themself online. Of course, to each their own, but lets not deny that there are real life consequences to taking a maple marriage seriously. My belief is these real life consequences outweigh the need for marriages in maplestory, and therefore should be removed.

    EDIT: Also unsure how close you are with that girl in your ally, I am not going to decide whether you should say something to her about that scenario, as it seems bizarre... But you are missing the point, I am pointing out that people like her exist, and how providing online marriages is doing a disservice to their mental health on a macro-scale. I am not going to go targeting people individually, as you must be confused I am not trying to 'get in their business and make fun of them'. Pointing out the consequences and flaws to this system is not 'making fun' or 'getting in peoples business', you started a suggestion thread on maple weddings, you will get a variety of different opinions, this one is mine, regardless of what married maplers or single maplers thing about it, I am only saying it to the entire forum, not calling out specific players. I do not mind if people continue to be ignorant to some potential consequences of maple marriages, I am only providing my opinion for people who take the time to look up this thread.
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  • rizariza
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    edited December 2018
    riza wrote: »
    AKradian wrote: »
    When the wedding system was revamped, many people voiced sentiments similar to your own. From the brief ceremony with few guests, to the ugly new wedding ring effect, everyone agreed that it was not nearly as fun or as emotionally satisfying as the old system.
    Unfortunately, the new system is what KMS has, and Nexon did not want to go back to our exclusive system. On the contrary: they recently removed even our roundabout access to Amoria town, with its unique quests and its hair salon offering exclusive styles.
    I will forward this suggestion. But I fear that, with Nexon's current trend towards matching as much of our content as possible with KMS, for good or bad (for example, we got the flames and stars we've been wanting for a long time, but lost Singapore), there is next to no chance of it being accepted.


    And a few words to some of the people in this thread:
    Harassment/Flaming/Trolling
    - Baiting players to flame; derailing threads to incite an argument or negative behavior; and simply for the sake of causing trouble are not behavior accepted on the Nexon forums.
    It's true that Riza used to post in a very annoying manner. He was warned and temp-banned for it.
    It appears he has understood what he was doing wrong, and is now attempting to reform.
    Do not try to bait him into relapsing.
    It would be much better to have him as a contributing member on these forums, rather than permanently banned.

    Thx :D I mean as the voice I definitely trying to keep it civil and trying to just see everyone opinion and to see if we could come up with something cause bera plan to have a few Christmas weddings "including mine" so yea just looking for ideas and see if in the coming year we have something good planned for weddings.
    riza wrote: »
    Shroomster wrote: »
    Im sour and dont have a voice so no Keep it the same
    I'm curious riza, can you read?

    You are obviously insulting anyone with a differing opinion than yours in an attempt (although probably no a conscious one) to load the voting to match in your desired opinion

    I can adjust it if you want so we can make it a lil more fair but thanks for your input as a community member I will change it for you :D

    I edit this but yea from what I seen I cant fix poll names so I mean just do yes or no sorry for not being able to change it :(

    Isn't choosing 'im sour and don't have a voice' contradictory as you are using your opinion to choose this option, ultimately demonstrating you have a voice in this subject matter? To the previous poster, I find it hard to believe Riza is trying to 'reform' based off of this thread, and in fact find this contrary to reformation and rather rude to anyone who doesn't share the same opinion as Riza based off the poll options... If this is considered a step in a positive direction we must have a really low standard for Riza, and etiquette on this forum.

    As for the suggestion, It is a bad idea, weddings between players in general in a video game is a terrible idea. Anecdotally I have met many maplers that are delusional about the 'intimate' relationships they have with other players, thinking they are in a real relationship and that the other person will come and fly over to visit them one day. How are we going to perpetuate such a delusional mindset by allowing them to equate marriage to their relationship? The solution is more friendship rings, and replacing marriages with someone less misleading, like 'partner' rings would be more than suffice. I understand this can be a provocative suggestion/feedback however lets not downplay how committed people are to this game. The other side to that is other aspects of their life will compromise for this game. By allowing them to marry others in the game, they are even further removed from society in the real world. I know most of you aren't keen on the mental health arguments against video games, as you are gamers, but acknowledge the cognitive dissonance, a partner in real life is light years beyond maple marriages in terms of quality, genuineness, physical interaction and intimacy , and maple marriages may act as a barrier for attaining such real life relationships. Therefore, I suggest we just scrap these marriages altogether.

    And like I mentioned before I had tried to change the poll but I cant so sorry about that :( But I had met or actually had about 10-50 people in my old ally who were kinda like you mentioned and got made fun for it. I mean if someone wants to believe it so in a game who am I too judge :/ I mean if someone wants to enjoy the game and play the character I mean more power for them its called MapleStory for a reason we come up and make our own stories and some people will adapt to it. Being an actor my self I see it more as practicing lmao. But yea I met a few of those people I don't think its cognitive dissonance to pretend or play a part but more of getting into or involved in your role. I mean when I see people come after me and say I'm a narcissist I do sometimes "I admit" play the role just to joke around doesn't really mean I'm that way. I think people get too emotional on others happiness. If I saw 2 people in MapleStory think or act like their a real married couple and they are enjoying the game, their healthy and happy and not bothering no one, then who am I to ruin that for them? I had defended a lot of people from being bullied from that mindset not trying to flame war but only saying that the way of thinking to ruin someone else's fun isn't nice. There is a girl who was in my ally who was obsessed with Magnus and now with will the boss. IS it right for me to tell that girl she's insane and that she needs to get a real life boyfriend and take some meds>.<. I mean we just have to let people have their fun and enjoy themselves. Look at it like this if you weren't invested in getting in other people business and getting too emotional about it we wouldn't have flame wars or hate in the community. But yea the voice of the people and voiceless has spoken and we as a community will decide if we will leave people to have their fun or if we will always get in their business and make fun of them. Up to you all to decide ;)

    Good on you for trying to correct it, Don't think this is the right thread to give you credit for reformation considering the poll options however, I'm sure you'll have other times to prove yourself to the forum community though.

    I would not make fun of someone for indulging an online marriage, and I would not judge them in a way that specifically targets an individual, but rather I am judging the concept of marriage in these video games as perpetuating an unhealthy attachment to the game as well as a further disconnect from other possible real, physical relationships one could attain in real life. It also leaves maplers susceptible to cat phishing and those sorts of false representations of who you are chatting with.

    In reference to your bolded text, I do not think you would ever be presented with that opportunity. A fair share of maplers do take there maple-romances relatively seriously, but a random player would not be able to witness their health and happiness, and generally speaking neither can their maple spouse. This is because they are married to someone in a video game, and have minimal physical, genuine face-time interaction. The reality is there is maplers taking their relationships very seriously, while they also have never met the person, maybe never even skyped with the person, and are stuck viewing their spouse in relation to how that person is perceiving themself online. Of course, to each their own, but lets not deny that there are real life consequences to taking a maple marriage seriously. My belief is these real life consequences outweigh the need for marriages in maplestory, and therefore should be removed.

    EDIT: Also unsure how close you are with that girl in your ally, I am not going to decide whether you should say something to her about that scenario, as it seems bizarre... But you are missing the point, I am pointing out that people like her exist, and how providing online marriages is doing a disservice to their mental health on a macro-scale. I am not going to go targeting people individually, as you must be confused I am not trying to 'get in their business and make fun of them'. Pointing out the consequences and flaws to this system is not 'making fun' or 'getting in peoples business', you started a suggestion thread on maple weddings, you will get a variety of different opinions, this one is mine, regardless of what married maplers or single maplers thing about it, I am only saying it to the entire forum, not calling out specific players. I do not mind if people continue to be ignorant to some potential consequences of maple marriages, I am only providing my opinion for people who take the time to look up this thread.

    Yea I understand what you mean from a realistic standpoint, But we have many types of lifestyles that don't promote the type of realistic ideas to help civilization to live on. I have seen this in many aspects and I don't agree with most of them. But I also recognize that this is a game, which first and foremost I will always recognize. I know the girl in my ally who was doing that is now living a healthy life she had her phrase and grew out of it, as most do. The other girl I mention you all know her well so I mean no need to mention it any further. I only say that something is only as flawed as the person using it. I never get too into a game I lose sight of my humanity and my social well being and I'm sure many others wouldn't. Are there some who are? Absolutely but that's why we as a community are here not to judge them but to be a support system to help them grow out of it. We can announce its unhealthy and help them grow out of it like many another type of deficiencies. Like I mentioned before and I don't mean to put words in anyone mouth. One thing people should know is when announcing an issue or problem is to never forget a person humanity and well being as if you bring up a concern and you want to change someone you have to do it with the right approach. If you come out too strong and messed up they won't change and it's not cause they have issued its cause if you didn't bother to understand them why should they bother to change. One rule of people is to give them the option to change and if the option is there for them without limitations then they will do so on their own.
  • FuhreakFuhreak
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    edited December 2018
    -snip-
    Isn't choosing 'im sour and don't have a voice' contradictory as you are using your opinion to choose this option, ultimately demonstrating you have a voice in this subject matter? To the previous poster, I find it hard to believe Riza is trying to 'reform' based off of this thread, and in fact find this contrary to reformation and rather rude to anyone who doesn't share the same opinion as Riza based off the poll options... If this is considered a step in a positive direction we must have a really low standard for Riza, and etiquette on this forum.
    -snip-

    Several users have put meme or rude options in polls for suggestions. I've spoken up about a few of them.
    I don't think it's really an issue if we're just posting in general chat, but in a suggestion that is supposed to help the developers, they don't belong.
    I don't think Riza meant any harm by doing this. I personally think we need to set standards for suggestions/feedback/requests, just like we have over in bug reporting.
    But that should be saved for another thread.
    For this thread, now that it's been moved to the correct forum, I think we need to focus our discussion on the wedding system.

    Personally I've never bothered with it. I've never bothered with it in other games that offered it either. Though I have to admit I'm not the most social of players.
    I've come across people who enjoyed the system before. But everyone I know/knew that used it agreed that it should just be a purely social thing.
    You shouldn't force players to have to "marry" another character to reap rewards. Skills, Events or otherwise.