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What is the Current State of Maplestory?

CrimroseViolinCrimroseViolin
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edited April 2019 in General Chat
I used to play the game a ton pre-Big Bang and continued on a for a few more years afterwards, but eventually quit. What's it like now? Is it welcoming for new players? What's early/mid/end game content like? P2W or no?

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  • Penguinz0Penguinz0
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    edited April 2019
    I used to play the game a ton pre-Big Bang and continued on a for a few more years afterwards, but eventually quit. What's it like now? Is it welcoming for new players? What's early/mid/end game content like? P2W or no?

    Overall, most definitely p2w. Some will tell you how far they've gotten despite being free player, but you're gonna have to grind a lot of time into this game if you want to reach that level as free player. So if you have a job, or any form of life, good luck.
    On the other hand, compare to pre Big Bang, it is definitely more new player friendly, since leveling to 200 has become significantly easier, and you no longer have to worry about not able to hunt because you don't have money to buy potions. So as for "early contents," it's not p2w. However, after 200, you're gonna have some tough time after entering a new region of arcane river, where most new players simply quit after hitting that progression wall. This is where you have to either 1. Grind A LOT of time or 2. pay real $$$.
    Socializing with others is a bit harder as well because most contents are just solo contents, and there are not much merit it doing any party quests (unlike pre big bang era) so you're not gonna find a lot of people doing any party-related contents. A lot of enhancement system is gonna seem very convoluted, but it should become easier to understand as you play (if you continue to play for some time that is).
    As of right now, I don't recommend playing this game. It becomes easily boring real fast for most new players, and their "Event" contents are same crap that's been recycled for years. I don't see why any new players would wanna play this game (other than nostalgia or just feeling adventurous) when there are so many other good games out there where your "skill" is the main factor, rather than how much $$ and time you grind into the game.
    However, if you already decided to play this game, then this is probably the best time to start playing because a big event is going on right now (14th anniversary event) that will help newbies ALOT.
  • Penguinz0Penguinz0
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    edited April 2019
    I used to play the game a ton pre-Big Bang and continued on a for a few more years afterwards, but eventually quit. What's it like now? Is it welcoming for new players? What's early/mid/end game content like? P2W or no?

    Also, they've added a new server called "Reboot" servers, where there's pretty much no real $$$ paying system involved. It's just simple hardcore grinding to get as much meso as you can, and using those mesos to buy things from cash shop, that you would need to pay real money to buy in regular servers. There's absolutely no trading system between players in this reboot server, so you pretty much have to develop your character by yourself (if you join a good guild, there r good people who will help u out as best they can). So if you're not into paying real money and like constant hardcore grinding, you'll like this server much more.
  • WigwoWigwo
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    edited April 2019
    I find it fun to play every now and then, usually I go HARD for a month or two then quit for a while.

    Reboot is the way to go if you don't want P2W, you can buy everything you need with mesos (like cubes and teleport rocks). There's also a burning event coming up May 8th that lets you level 3x as fast up to level 150.
  • CrimroseViolinCrimroseViolin
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    edited April 2019
    Wow, thanks for the super informative responses guys. Reboot sounds like a very nice compromise.
  • Penguinz0Penguinz0
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    edited April 2019
    Wow, thanks for the super informative responses guys. Reboot sounds like a very nice compromise.

    Again must warn you. Reboot is veeeeeeeery hardcore grind intensive. Know that before u play
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited April 2019
    Penguinz0 wrote: »
    Wow, thanks for the super informative responses guys. Reboot sounds like a very nice compromise.

    Again must warn you. Reboot is veeeeeeeery hardcore grind intensive. Know that before u play

    To put this in a less harsh-sounding way: reboot replaces the money investment of regular servers with a time investment. Most of your time is going to be spent grinding mesos for cubes.
    Fuhreak
  • AKradianAKradian
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    edited April 2019
    One more thing to be aware of when considering Reboot as p2w alternative: cosmetics are considerably more expensive in Reboot. Trading and the Meso Market make it possible to customize your character for meso in non-Reboot worlds, but in Reboot you have to pay for it all with NX.
  • YinYangXYinYangX
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    edited April 2019
    My two cents:

    I think Maplestory is very open (maybe not as far as "welcoming") to new players, lots of tutorial/introductory guides/freeish okayish stuff. "Early" game goes by really fast now a days (1~180ish?). Mid-game is a bit grindish (~180~220?). End game (~220~275) is completely grindfest and most people lose interest around here unless you're into it/find odd ways to keep yourself entertained.
    Personally, think Maplestory is P2W, since you need a lot of cubes and meso funding to get really high range, but I don't think it's P2P. I'm 100% F2P and I have more range than a lot of my guild mates who are P2W/P2P, albeit I've put in a lot more time into the game and eventually said guild mates will probably pass me.

    As for Reboot vs non, I prefer non since I'm a huge merch-er, love buy lowing and selling high, etc etc.
    If you end up not joining Reboot, feel free to join my guild and me on Scania. #shamelessplug
  • FuhreakFuhreak
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    edited April 2019
    YinYangX wrote: »
    As for Reboot vs non, I prefer non since I'm a huge merch-er, love buy lowing and selling high, etc etc.
    If you end up not joining Reboot, feel free to join my guild and me on Scania. #shamelessplug

    You can also do this while playing reboot if you have enough funds to play the market on a normal server.
    Though it will take longer and you're probably better off just picking one over the other, it can be fun to JUST mess with the market as a reboot player.
    Think of it like steam trading cards, not worth much, but every once in a while you can get a a few dollars worth of NX.
    YinYangX
  • rizariza
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    edited April 2019
    I used to play the game a ton pre-Big Bang and continued on a for a few more years afterwards, but eventually quit. What's it like now? Is it welcoming for new players? What's early/mid/end game content like? P2W or no?

    To break down what you ask I do it in a more honest and straight forward way. Coming from big bang there's a lot of content that you were used to that is way gone and no longer there, with the exceptions of a few bosses. With quiting maple and coming back there are a few things to keep in mind.

    If you had attack plus speed in your first line prior to quitting you can try to reroll and possibly getting it in the second line instead of as only people who been around long can have that. So you as an old player have really neat perks that can only be available to you.

    Also if you play in the main servers it's 100% pay to win so prepare your wallet or merching skills cause you will need it. Main servers are great cause there are alot of people and you can trade so people can help you get started.

    In reboot it kinda free, there are a lot of things you need to buy but you can farm your way to getting those items. But reboot is good for nubs, and people who can't last in the main servers so if you're a nub that's the place for you.

    Now the differences of the 2 different type of servers are like I said reboot is for people who set on not spending money, which they fail cause they have to spend money on pets and cash shops. Also to buy perks so you will be investing money just not as much as the main server. Also with reboot being a server where you can gain range easily, most of them are stuck up and won't party with you unless your level 200, so if you're a low level starting off especially you not knowing a soul you will be locked out of help for 200 of your levels.

    The only way to get help is to have a friend already there funded who can help you. How I know this and say this? I have done a documentary of the server differences, and no one knows it but I am part of reboot as well as run a guild there so I know. There also botting issues that go on there as well so keep in mind a lot of people do hack there. So thats some of what I know I know more but I leave it at that.

    In the main server, you have to spend money in the game. You can get away with it til level 200-210 but you will need to spend money. A few pros to being in main server is there's a vast amount of people and personalities. I have seen from my experience in the main servers there's a lot of people who will ignore and not help new players, not as bad as reboot but overall the same. There are guilds of people who would help but the majority of those people who are very kind and can help a bit are hene hoes "thus not being that strong".

    Now there are guilds and people who do help new players, my guild dragontribe had made server ursus raids in khaini/broa and had taken new players to raid with us. within those raids, we introduce those new players to popular players like Deathstroke, Holygirrafe, Yatoh and many other players and popular guilds. Depending on the new player's needs we sort them out and get them in guilds with people who can better help them. Like most new Spanish players usually join Latinlord or my guild while we have Spanish speakers and can communicate and help them greatly.

    Also, we had donations of Cra and Gollux gear so we can equip them and send them off. So at least in our server in khroa, we have done that, and it was like a community thing. Which is also recorded and documented. So the flexibility for getting help and people donating resources is a plus and can minus the amount of money you spend depending on how greedy and uncharitable the individuals are.

    Now I don't know much about other guilds or groups but I can speak on my experience and can say this to you. if you play on reboot be prepared to solo it til 200 as they won't help you unless they know you, or you happen to run into a great individual. In the main server, they are the same way but within those stuck-up individuals, you have very great ones who are very caring and like to help people and make new friends.

    I hope My information helped and hope you find a great server to start in. Starting off in these games aren't easy but are worth it if you tough it out. But gl and hope you enjoy the game :D
  • FuhreakFuhreak
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    edited April 2019
    riza wrote: »
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    Good post Riza. Now can you do it again without the anti-Reboot rhetoric?
    It's fine if you dislike reboot, but don't try to pretend normal servers aren't just as bad. You even admit it yourself.

    Thanks for learning how to format. I can actually read these posts now.
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  • WigwoWigwo
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    riza wrote: »
    In reboot it kinda free, there are a lot of things you need to buy but you can farm your way to getting those items. But reboot is good for nubs, and people who can't last in the main servers so if you're a nub that's the place for you.


    Imagine calling the players that have to work harder on all of their equips worse than the ones that open up their wallet to get big lmao
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  • DaxterbeerDaxterbeer
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    In the main server, you have to spend money in the game. You can get away with it til level 200-210 but you will need to spend money. A few pros to being in main server is there's a vast amount of people and personalities. I have seen from my experience in the main servers there's a lot of people who will ignore and not help new players, not as bad as reboot but overall the same. There are guilds of people who would help but the majority of those people who are very kind and can help a bit are hene hoes "thus not being that strong".
    Now I don't know much about other guilds or groups but I can speak on my experience and can say this to you. if you play on reboot be prepared to solo it til 200 as they won't help you unless they know you, or you happen to run into a great individual. In the main server, they are the same way but within those stuck-up individuals, you have very great ones who are very caring and like to help people and make new friends.

    Riza, a lot of things here are false. My guild members and myself made it to 200+ and even 250 without paying. We have our ways of supplying ourselves by means of farming and dailies or selling those items when are short on mesos. There is a lot of people in both Reboot and Non-Reboot and Reboot is not empty. I don't get a lot of players since I am not a Scania or Bera player. You cannot help new players in Reboot directly as the only way you can is by carries when they have access to the content or you want to provide them help via buffs. Advice can be counted as help and the idea is universal regardless (Reboot help may vary from non-Reboot help.) In non-Reboot servers, you are always given the choice to help players by giving funds or items, but in Reboot, you help them by not looting from bosses and offering your share.

    You are not deterring players from Reboot, but rather the whole game since you stated main servers have people who won't help you and that you are forced to solo in Reboot unless you are LVL 200 and strong or meet a good soul. Your pros and cons about help and who you meet are present in both environments. Your experience in the server really depends on who you meet and if you are going to be resourceful. I personally take non-Reboot as a place to blaze through and Reboot a place to challenge myself when I am done with my dailies for the day.


    PetalmagicFuhreakSlicedTime
  • rizariza
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    edited April 2019
    Fuhreak wrote: »
    riza wrote: »
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    Good post Riza. Now can you do it again without the anti-Reboot rhetoric?
    It's fine if you dislike reboot, but don't try to pretend normal servers aren't just as bad. You even admit it yourself.

    Thanks for learning how to format. I can actually read these posts now.

    Nah I would never say anything bad about anything or anyone without the proof, like I said the videos are out there so yeah. But yeah I only post the honest truth about how servers work, it not hate or rhetoric but just pointing out that in reboot, if a new player comes in some other players can provide some assistance. such as hs+kishin and also information to new players.

    When we have done test runs to see the welcoming party prior to making a guild there like we do in all servers it wasn't what we expected and even watched other new people see how they were welcomed. It wasn't what we expected as we expected a free server to be more community friendly and resourceful, could it have changed? maybe but the time I made the video it showed otherwise.


    Wigwo wrote: »
    riza wrote: »
    In reboot it kinda free, there are a lot of things you need to buy but you can farm your way to getting those items. But reboot is good for nubs, and people who can't last in the main servers so if you're a nub that's the place for you.


    Imagine calling the players that have to work harder on all of their equips worse than the ones that open up their wallet to get big lmao

    But as we know one of your best reboot players was caught hacking, the thing is yes we do open our wallets. It is a true statement, but we work harder and help more people. We in main servers do giveaways and even guild events with what we win in marvel or books and give to people who would better need it. It is one of the main reasons why the main server has issues.

    Cause in the people of the main server is only worried about making money. Now you run into people who would not even think about the money but just enjoying the game, running a guild, buying stuff or marvel to do guild giveaways and give back to the people. I am saying when it comes to charity and chastity people are more like that in the main servers then reboot.

    It is something to not take as a diss or rhetoric but maybe you can look at what I said and be like " Hey that guy wrong let's have a welcoming party or people there to help new players" Prove to the main servers that you guys are greater then what we think. I think instead of throwing negative at negative use what was said and prove us wrong. :D That's what I would do.
    Daxterbeer wrote: »
    In the main server, you have to spend money in the game. You can get away with it til level 200-210 but you will need to spend money. A few pros to being in main server is there's a vast amount of people and personalities. I have seen from my experience in the main servers there's a lot of people who will ignore and not help new players, not as bad as reboot but overall the same. There are guilds of people who would help but the majority of those people who are very kind and can help a bit are hene hoes "thus not being that strong".
    Now I don't know much about other guilds or groups but I can speak on my experience and can say this to you. if you play on reboot be prepared to solo it til 200 as they won't help you unless they know you, or you happen to run into a great individual. In the main server, they are the same way but within those stuck-up individuals, you have very great ones who are very caring and like to help people and make new friends.

    Riza, a lot of things here are false. My guild members and myself made it to 200+ and even 250 without paying. We have our ways of supplying ourselves by means of farming and dailies or selling those items when are short on mesos. There is a lot of people in both Reboot and Non-Reboot and Reboot is not empty. I don't get a lot of players since I am not a Scania or Bera player. You cannot help new players in Reboot directly as the only way you can is by carries when they have access to the content or you want to provide them help via buffs. Advice can be counted as help and the idea is universal regardless (Reboot help may vary from non-Reboot help.) In non-Reboot servers, you are always given the choice to help players by giving funds or items, but in Reboot, you help them by not looting from bosses and offering your share.

    You are not deterring players from Reboot, but rather the whole game since you stated main servers have people who won't help you and that you are forced to solo in Reboot unless you are LVL 200 and strong or meet a good soul. Your pros and cons about help and who you meet are present in both environments. Your experience in the server really depends on who you meet and if you are going to be resourceful. I personally take non-Reboot as a place to blaze through and Reboot a place to challenge myself when I am done with my dailies for the day.


    I don't think I am deterring people from the game at all, but honesty is honesty if a new player joins and a person says to them in the exact quote "I'm not adding you to the guild get to level 200 then I add you" when the new player just join is going to set the player to either struggle through to maybe join a guild or not bother. In khaini/broa we would never turn down any new players and everyone was always welcoming.

    I feel its just something some people need to look at, maybe you have not done that but there are definitely people who have done that. Opening up a wallet for some people is a way to bypass socializing and community for some that why you would see some people not bother with reboot. Now I am in reboot and notice it, but like I said don't take it as a diss as most of what I say is always constructive and meant to help.

    Now if anyone gets mad at it, guess it personal, but yeah I do hope what I said was helpful and yeah if you want to join reboot I say make a Kanna first, as it would help you. If you have a friend already there they can help you and make the progress easier.

    If you join the main servers, you would have an easier time getting up like most people in hene would help you and really friendly. You can maybe run into a funded person and they can help give you a jump start. But it the most easier option if you're looking to socialize.
  • DaxterbeerDaxterbeer
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    riza wrote: »
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    Just say your experience depends on your ability to adapt and who you meet. There are jerks and angels in both servers

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  • rizariza
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    edited May 2019
    Daxterbeer wrote: »
    riza wrote: »
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    Just say your experience depends on your ability to adapt and who you meet. There are jerks and angels in both servers

    Yeah, I love them both that's what makes this game amazing. Jerks bring the best out of the players while angels are supportive u need a balance for a good experience.