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Can you explain this new policy? How does it benefit the game, the community, or the company, to keep the character names secret?
Our hacker problem was never this bad until we migrated.
Currently looking for a mp3 map and they are all full of hackers.
just to say an example acording to the previous CM am banned permanently in one of the lists he posted
yet am not the first or last that did not do anything agaisnt the rules in game and never got removed from such lists
it could also be lazyness cause most names of people that its hacking/botting its always some random thing like "sadadsasd" or "jhgjkgjgj"
If you're saying the list is inaccurate - well, that means the total count they posted is incorrect as well.
As for "laziness" - the list is generated by computer, from the GM's "ban" action. Nobody was ever typing all those names in.
Also there is a certain advertiser who smega's everyday and still walking around. This person has been reported by many players and still walks around, making me wonder if they ever patrol on Luna at all, which most of us doubt as long this person is still smega-ing everyday selling its mesos.
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Why "any council" rather than "any advisor" or "any consultant"? Why would anybody be talking to a council about privacy policies? A board, maybe, or a team of consultants, possibly, but I have never heard such teams referred to as a "council".
No, it's pretty obvious that you meant to write "counsel" here, especially since you were not referring specifically to yourself. You said "any council". Besides, you might not be a lawyer, but you also aren't a council. You're one person.
As for grammar: I don't normally comment on people's spelling or grammar, but when someone misspells a word that is central to their purported field of expertise, it puts just a little bit of doubt in my mind. When, after being alerted to the misspelling, they go on to confuse that word with a similar word that has a different meaning (counsel and counselor), well, it certainly makes me go "hmm....".
As for insults: You started it, with the "I understand that you want to be quick to jump on everything."
Now I think we have derailed this thread enough.
I am still waiting for Arwoo to explain the new policy.
Nexon has indeed changed their policy regarding this (it's not just for MapleStory).
Basically, bans are now between the affected player and Nexon only and not for the public to see. What happens to the player is also none of your business after you report someone.
The reason why is because as a player it's not your duty to hunt the players you reported.
@AlexF Assuming someone was permanently banned for hacking, I don't think that person should have a say in whether it is wrong or illegal for Nexon to post their ign. In fact, I believe Nexon could and SHOULD update the ToS so that when someone gets banned, they forfeit any right to possibly sue them. That's assuming anyone would actually waste their time even trying. That way, we the community get a detailed list of the hackers that get banned, Nexon doesn't need to worry about being sued(because that's a big concern for them /end sarcasm), and maple becomes .001% better.
Also, I'd like to reiterate some things others have already said.... Although it's nice to have a list saying "6,666 pplz waz banned for guds", what do we gain from this?
-we don't know how many accounts were banned, so it could actually be like... 2,000 people
-we don't know what worlds(Scania, window, Luna, etc). For all we know, 90% of those could be from Reboot. From what I've heard, Nexon sent the bulk of GM patrols to Reboot rather than the main servers... just a rumor but like I said, no way to know
-we don't know if the hacker we reported got banned or spooked and ran away
-we don't know which igns are permanently gone forever(some people may not appreciate this, but a few months/years down the road all new characters will be xxnarutofan420xx
- we don't know what classes they are.
And you know what the sad thing is? Not only will a detailed list help the community(and help Nexon be more transparent like OneLetter claims they want to try to maybe in the foreseeable future attempt to begin to implement and consider doing -.-), but it will also help Nexon track and take action against certain ... statistics. Meaning, if the bulk of the characters banned were Blaze Wizards around lv 180, then by using logic and common sense, one can assume those hackers are probably hacking in a map that can still spawn elites or drop mesos. So that means that GMs should re-format their patrols and have a heavier presence in maps that are 10-20 levels above/below lv 180.
"But that's A LOT of maps to have to go through... blahblahblah". We've already told Nexon the maps where hackers hack the most. They simply choose not to do anything about it. Or choose not to do enough. But that's enough of that.
Honestly I'd rather not see a list. And maybe I am ungrateful so hate on me all you want. But I've been around long enough to know that things like this either get half-assed or done inaccurately. And providing such little detail only makes it a smokescreen to hide behind..... legal issues. Pls. Since when have they cared about that.
On the contrary. If there are a lot of level 180 BW's getting banned, that means the GMs are already patrolling the maps they frequent.
The question would be: where did all these BW's train before they got to 180? Maybe GMs need to find the level 150 or 120 maps these bots came from?
That one doesn't need to be patrolled. It needs to be patched.
that exploit has been around for y e a r s. it absolutely must be patched. It should have been patched.
-Jamming of Key without human interaction. Though i don't know if that is apply to GMS. What arise my curiosity is because around 2-3 years ago, maplestory have made all character cannot simply just stand in 1 spot and spamming 1 key because after hundreds or a thousand, the char will freeze or cannot attacking until it move again. But now, it seems that you doesn't apply that on certain skills such as Kanna 's kishin. And several class also can attack nonstop. Does this implies that Keyjamming on certain char or lets say Kanna's kishin are allowed? Why not putting a clear ToS regarding Keyjamming like maplesea?
So, keyjamming or keyweighting is NOT allowed, since it makes your character function in Maplestory without your presence.
The fact that the anti-cheat 100-attack limit doesn't work with certain skills doesn't mean they are permitted to bot, just as having an unlocked door in your house doesn't mean taking your stuff is legal. Carelessness =/= permission.
There are some great suggestions here for more things that could be added to give us more details about the banned hackers if IGNs can't be provided. I like the suggestion of adding in how many accounts were banned vs characters, number of banned based on player reports received, and a breakdown of banned characters per world. Personally, I'd be encouraged to report more hackers if I knew that my reports were being used, and that there were GMs in my world banning (since like someone else posted - GMs are barely visible)