Instinct9001

riza wrote: »

AKradian wrote: »

When the wedding system was revamped, many people voiced sentiments similar to your own. From the brief ceremony with few guests, to the ugly new wedding ring effect, everyone agreed that it was not nearly as fun or as emotionally satisfying as the old system.
Unfortunately, the new system is what KMS has, and Nexon did not want to go back to our exclusive system. On the contrary: they recently removed even our roundabout access to Amoria town, with its unique quests and its hair salon offering exclusive styles.
I will forward this suggestion. But I fear that, with Nexon's current trend towards matching as much of our content as possible with KMS, for good or bad (for example, we got the flames and stars we've been wanting for a long time, but lost Singapore), there is next to no chance of it being accepted.


And a few words to some of the people in this thread:

Code of Conduct wrote:

Harassment/Flaming/Trolling
- Baiting players to flame; derailing threads to incite an argument or negative behavior; and simply for the sake of causing trouble are not behavior accepted on the Nexon forums.

It's true that Riza used to post in a very annoying manner. He was warned and temp-banned for it.
It appears he has understood what he was doing wrong, and is now attempting to reform.
Do not try to bait him into relapsing.
It would be much better to have him as a contributing member on these forums, rather than permanently banned.

Thx I mean as the voice I definitely trying to keep it civil and trying to just see everyone opinion and to see if we could come up with something cause bera plan to have a few Christmas weddings "including mine" so yea just looking for ideas and see if in the coming year we have something good planned for weddings.

Instinct9001 wrote: »

riza wrote: »

Shroomster wrote: »

Im sour and dont have a voice so no Keep it the same

I'm curious riza, can you read?

You are obviously insulting anyone with a differing opinion than yours in an attempt (although probably no a conscious one) to load the voting to match in your desired opinion

I can adjust it if you want so we can make it a lil more fair but thanks for your input as a community member I will change it for you

I edit this but yea from what I seen I cant fix poll names so I mean just do yes or no sorry for not being able to change it

Isn't choosing 'im sour and don't have a voice' contradictory as you are using your opinion to choose this option, ultimately demonstrating you have a voice in this subject matter? To the previous poster, I find it hard to believe Riza is trying to 'reform' based off of this thread, and in fact find this contrary to reformation and rather rude to anyone who doesn't share the same opinion as Riza based off the poll options... If this is considered a step in a positive direction we must have a really low standard for Riza, and etiquette on this forum.

As for the suggestion, It is a bad idea, weddings between players in general in a video game is a terrible idea. Anecdotally I have met many maplers that are delusional about the 'intimate' relationships they have with other players, thinking they are in a real relationship and that the other person will come and fly over to visit them one day. How are we going to perpetuate such a delusional mindset by allowing them to equate marriage to their relationship? The solution is more friendship rings, and replacing marriages with someone less misleading, like 'partner' rings would be more than suffice. I understand this can be a provocative suggestion/feedback however lets not downplay how committed people are to this game. The other side to that is other aspects of their life will compromise for this game. By allowing them to marry others in the game, they are even further removed from society in the real world. I know most of you aren't keen on the mental health arguments against video games, as you are gamers, but acknowledge the cognitive dissonance, a partner in real life is light years beyond maple marriages in terms of quality, genuineness, physical interaction and intimacy , and maple marriages may act as a barrier for attaining such real life relationships. Therefore, I suggest we just scrap these marriages altogether.

And like I mentioned before I had tried to change the poll but I cant so sorry about that But I had met or actually had about 10-50 people in my old ally who were kinda like you mentioned and got made fun for it. I mean if someone wants to believe it so in a game who am I too judge I mean if someone wants to enjoy the game and play the character I mean more power for them its called MapleStory for a reason we come up and make our own stories and some people will adapt to it. Being an actor my self I see it more as practicing lmao. But yea I met a few of those people I don't think its cognitive dissonance to pretend or play a part but more of getting into or involved in your role. I mean when I see people come after me and say I'm a narcissist I do sometimes "I admit" play the role just to joke around doesn't really mean I'm that way. I think people get too emotional on others happiness. If I saw 2 people in MapleStory think or act like their a real married couple and they are enjoying the game, their healthy and happy and not bothering no one, then who am I to ruin that for them? I had defended a lot of people from being bullied from that mindset not trying to flame war but only saying that the way of thinking to ruin someone else's fun isn't nice. There is a girl who was in my ally who was obsessed with Magnus and now with will the boss. IS it right for me to tell that girl she's insane and that she needs to get a real life boyfriend and take some meds>.<. I mean we just have to let people have their fun and enjoy themselves. Look at it like this if you weren't invested in getting in other people business and getting too emotional about it we wouldn't have flame wars or hate in the community. But yea the voice of the people and voiceless has spoken and we as a community will decide if we will leave people to have their fun or if we will always get in their business and make fun of them. Up to you all to decide

Good on you for trying to correct it, Don't think this is the right thread to give you credit for reformation considering the poll options however, I'm sure you'll have other times to prove yourself to the forum community though.

I would not make fun of someone for indulging an online marriage, and I would not judge them in a way that specifically targets an individual, but rather I am judging the concept of marriage in these video games as perpetuating an unhealthy attachment to the game as well as a further disconnect from other possible real, physical relationships one could attain in real life. It also leaves maplers susceptible to cat phishing and those sorts of false representations of who you are chatting with.

In reference to your bolded text, I do not think you would ever be presented with that opportunity. A fair share of maplers do take there maple-romances relatively seriously, but a random player would not be able to witness their health and happiness, and generally speaking neither can their maple spouse. This is because they are married to someone in a video game, and have minimal physical, genuine face-time interaction. The reality is there is maplers taking their relationships very seriously, while they also have never met the person, maybe never even skyped with the person, and are stuck viewing their spouse in relation to how that person is perceiving themself online. Of course, to each their own, but lets not deny that there are real life consequences to taking a maple marriage seriously. My belief is these real life consequences outweigh the need for marriages in maplestory, and therefore should be removed.

EDIT: Also unsure how close you are with that girl in your ally, I am not going to decide whether you should say something to her about that scenario, as it seems bizarre... But you are missing the point, I am pointing out that people like her exist, and how providing online marriages is doing a disservice to their mental health on a macro-scale. I am not going to go targeting people individually, as you must be confused I am not trying to 'get in their business and make fun of them'. Pointing out the consequences and flaws to this system is not 'making fun' or 'getting in peoples business', you started a suggestion thread on maple weddings, you will get a variety of different opinions, this one is mine, regardless of what married maplers or single maplers thing about it, I am only saying it to the entire forum, not calling out specific players. I do not mind if people continue to be ignorant to some potential consequences of maple marriages, I am only providing my opinion for people who take the time to look up this thread.