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엘소드 wrote: »

If every complaint is considered valid, are those that are fine with the changes not considered valid and valuable as feedback as well?

I was referring to the complaints against the changes. People haven't done their research and think the change is actually going to benefit them more because of how it has been worded in the announcement.

엘소드 wrote: »

The moment someone disagrees that the changes are bad, everyone will jump on said person for being wrong. Looking back at the thread, you'd see that PirateIzzy was the one who started the spiral by insulting everyone who sided with the changes, and then the whole thing devolved into a flame pit a page later. So fine, lets ban everyone in that topic that insulted others; Gasp! that'll mostly be those who voiced their opinion as against the changes.
Guess what kind of picture folks will think the mods are painting then. Actually, it's so blatently obvious that folks will be calling out mods for silencing 'criticism', ignoring that those posts contained insults.


Data for KMS, not for GMS. If you're going to assume that it'll be a C&P job, it's safe to assume that the response given by Nexon Korea as reasoning should be valid until GMS provides a response themselves (if they ever do). Dismissing it as a misconstruction is pointless when you're building your argument on the basis that GMS's patch will mainly follow KMS (with the small additions not found in their version like familiars, etc.).

You could say the same about any disagreement. It's why we argue certain points to change peoples opinions. Despite what you are saying the discussion was pretty civil. You're over exaggerating the situation especially for what was going on in that thread. There was 1 insult thrown out that was "boot licker" by one individual to anouther. Hardly offensive. She/he was at least very civil in the rest of her/his post and made valid points.

The drop rate changes we are getting are the exact same ones as KMS got so it can pretty much be seen as data for GMS also. Even if you didn't ignore what extras we have you'd still come to the conclusion that this change is still worse than what we currently have. It's the indisputable fact and it's the reason people are arguing in that thread with Darkpassenger. I still believe fully that a mod could have stopped the squabble by warning. Keep on topic and avoid insults or lock. It's pretty simple and mods in the past have done it before. If things are still going downhill from there then you lock.

They never would and never do. Gotta love how they closed the announcement thread about the changes. While there was some drama in there it should have been dealt with by mods and left open. Speaks volumes on how we're being silenced and told to pretty much accept these garbage changes.

We won't have it as bad as KMS due to the fact we have certain features they do not but it's still going to be horrible. I can think of many other ways they could have closed that "gap" that don't involve screwing over a large majority of your player base who have invested time and money and expect to see returns.

People have been making suggestions to increase the drop rate for nodestones and symbols but did they do that? No they did not.

(Like I said in a post earlier, while they said they buffed the drop rate because of how drop rate is calculated now it's not a buff)

People have been asking for increased cube drop rates or to make cubes more accessible on the non reboot servers. Have they done that? No they did not.


They could have easily done one of the two to fix this widening gap without screwing anyone. The progression is always going to be different for each player because there are people who have more time to play and people who don't. If I work 12 hours and one guy works 6 should he earn the same money for the same job? No he **** shouldn't. That's just the plain reality people need to accept especially when it comes to MMO games. If they wanted progression to be more even they shouldn't have divided it in the first place by shoving p2w in our faces.

The butchery changes to drop rate gear that Nexon has done is just morally wrong. Rather than providing an alternative solution that doesn't screw a large majority they decide on screwing a large majority. These are people who have invested hundreds into drop gear early on. People funding this game so it stays up and they just took a massive dump on all of our faces and for what? This change doesn't help anyone. Not even the unfunded. At least with increased drop rates the unfunded don't have to suffer without having drop gear like they are now and can eventually invest in drop gear for increased rates. Seems like the more ideal solution.

Hope you can add Moptop with Bangs into the next rotation.



Also I'd like to suggest these new KMS hairstyles. Not sure what the english names are yet. Will update if I get them.

DarkPassenger you are delusional if you think something is coming. If you keep up with Korean patches you'll see nothing is coming that fixes or changes this. In fact it only gets worse if you take a look at the current KMST patch. There some more disgusting changes potentially coming. As I've said already, despite so much negative feedback (almost all of it was negative even in Korea) they still decided to push this change through and they will most likely push the next horrible changes through also which is also getting a huge amount of negative feedback currently.

The biggest problem here is feedback isn't really being taken into account anymore. There's no good reason for this change and it doesn't help anyone. Not even people without drop gear. This version of the game can't afford crap like this to happen. It's not completely dying yet but it is stagnating. A handful of people are probably going to quit over this change and you can expect even more to quit if the new KMST patch makes it through with no changes. Changes like these aren't healthy for the game.