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Aftermath of the World Leap.

ChukkiChukki
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edited October 2017 in General Chat
I don't know about you guys but it makes me sick to see Scania ch.1 not being full all day.

It just makes it so unmotivated to play even though I still will play because I have my alliance with me to communicate.

It'll be awful for a new player that just started playing to see these worlds.

I really hope Nexon starts thinking about merging servers because this isn't funny anymore.

The goal here is for Nexon to bring in more NEW PLAYERS but this isn't helping it.

More New Players = More Money

The goal here is to construct the community, not deconstruct it.
saladsenpaii

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  • AcgnoliaAcgnolia
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    edited October 2017
    Chukki wrote: »
    It'll be awful for a new player that just started playing to see these worlds.

    I really hope Nexon starts thinking about merging servers because this isn't funny anymore.

    The goal here is for Nexon to bring in more NEW PLAYERS but this isn't helping it.

    More New Players = More Money

    The goal here is to construct the community, not deconstruct it.

    that new player stuff aint happening
  • CatoooloooCatooolooo
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    edited October 2017
    Acgnolia wrote: »
    Chukki wrote: »
    It'll be awful for a new player that just started playing to see these worlds.

    I really hope Nexon starts thinking about merging servers because this isn't funny anymore.

    The goal here is for Nexon to bring in more NEW PLAYERS but this isn't helping it.

    More New Players = More Money

    The goal here is to construct the community, not deconstruct it.

    that new player stuff aint happening

    not without better than minimum effort advertising and better PR
    saladsenpaii
  • AcgnoliaAcgnolia
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    edited October 2017
    Catooolooo wrote: »
    Acgnolia wrote: »
    Chukki wrote: »
    It'll be awful for a new player that just started playing to see these worlds.

    I really hope Nexon starts thinking about merging servers because this isn't funny anymore.

    The goal here is for Nexon to bring in more NEW PLAYERS but this isn't helping it.

    More New Players = More Money

    The goal here is to construct the community, not deconstruct it.

    that new player stuff aint happening

    not without better than minimum effort advertising and better PR

    The game has reached its peak long ago, and has been declining for some time (which is normal for most games). But, the decline of this game is ridiculous, to just think that even a small wave of new players will sign up for this game is overly optimistic.

    It would be more rational to do everything to hold on people who have already played the game, and merge the dam servers, so the population isnt so low
    saladsenpaii
  • xxHorntailxxxxHorntailxx
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    edited October 2017
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  • pandabunniespandabunnies
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    edited October 2017
    Acgnolia wrote: »
    Catooolooo wrote: »
    Acgnolia wrote: »
    Chukki wrote: »
    It'll be awful for a new player that just started playing to see these worlds.

    I really hope Nexon starts thinking about merging servers because this isn't funny anymore.

    The goal here is for Nexon to bring in more NEW PLAYERS but this isn't helping it.

    More New Players = More Money

    The goal here is to construct the community, not deconstruct it.

    that new player stuff aint happening

    not without better than minimum effort advertising and better PR

    The game has reached its peak long ago, and has been declining for some time (which is normal for most games). But, the decline of this game is ridiculous, to just think that even a small wave of new players will sign up for this game is overly optimistic.

    It would be more rational to do everything to hold on people who have already played the game, and merge the dam servers, so the population isnt so low

    Maybe if they got a popular let's player to do a series and made some improvements we'd see more people. They got PBG to do a video for reboot and I've always wondered why they didn't do more of that. It's frustrating to see so little advertising because I believe it could get somewhat popular again if they just fixed some stuff. Maybe that's just me, though. I just really don't want this game to fail because in spite of all it's flaws I REALLY like this game. I know it isn't perfect, but I have fun playing regardless.
  • AcgnoliaAcgnolia
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    edited October 2017
    Acgnolia wrote: »
    Catooolooo wrote: »
    Acgnolia wrote: »
    Chukki wrote: »
    It'll be awful for a new player that just started playing to see these worlds.

    I really hope Nexon starts thinking about merging servers because this isn't funny anymore.

    The goal here is for Nexon to bring in more NEW PLAYERS but this isn't helping it.

    More New Players = More Money

    The goal here is to construct the community, not deconstruct it.

    that new player stuff aint happening

    not without better than minimum effort advertising and better PR

    The game has reached its peak long ago, and has been declining for some time (which is normal for most games). But, the decline of this game is ridiculous, to just think that even a small wave of new players will sign up for this game is overly optimistic.

    It would be more rational to do everything to hold on people who have already played the game, and merge the dam servers, so the population isnt so low

    Maybe if they got a popular let's player to do a series and made some improvements we'd see more people. They got PBG to do a video for reboot and I've always wondered why they didn't do more of that. It's frustrating to see so little advertising because I believe it could get somewhat popular again if they just fixed some stuff. Maybe that's just me, though. I just really don't want this game to fail because in spite of all it's flaws I REALLY like this game. I know it isn't perfect, but I have fun playing regardless.

    It would be interesting to see the result of heavy advertisement, but that could cost a lot of money for Nexon, and it may not be worthwhile if not successful
  • pandabunniespandabunnies
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    edited October 2017
    Acgnolia wrote: »

    Maybe if they got a popular let's player to do a series and made some improvements we'd see more people. They got PBG to do a video for reboot and I've always wondered why they didn't do more of that. It's frustrating to see so little advertising because I believe it could get somewhat popular again if they just fixed some stuff. Maybe that's just me, though. I just really don't want this game to fail because in spite of all it's flaws I REALLY like this game. I know it isn't perfect, but I have fun playing regardless.

    It would be interesting to see the result of heavy advertisement, but that could cost a lot of money for Nexon, and it may not be worthwhile if not successful

    They could go for the anime community. That could work. And throwing a youtuber some cash to play the game wouldn't be TOO expensive, lord knows they could use the cash these days. We just need to get rid of these botters, having them around will turn away newbies like crazy.
  • chaoscauserchaoscauser
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    edited October 2017
    GRAZED has been like this for years welcome to my world ..
  • MageOfBattlesMageOfBattles
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    edited October 2017
    We just need to get rid of these botters, having them around will turn away newbies like crazy.
    Getting rid of botters is very simple, stop giving the demand for them to bot it's that simple.
    See you people wanna blame Nexon for botters and dupers for your problems, news flash YOUR the ones buying their stuff.
    If it's not you, then it's one of your friends, or guild members, or their friends and their guild members.

    Don't buy their boss drops don't buy their items don't buy their mesos, when you do that well they're no longer making any money so they will be wasting money paying for a program that is no longer funding them.

    Think of this what if Nexon was to stop releasing content for this game?
    Would they be able to sell you something new that you'd buy and would make them money? Nope.
    So if they can't supply you with content to keep you paying they're not gonna make money.

    I mean, you're technically right, but it's not always easy to spot botter shops. I doubt all of them have multiple stacks of 100 items in their shops. As for buying mesos, I agree, it's really stupid of people to buy mesos from websites. I'd love see someone try to call me out for saying that one
  • MageOfBattlesMageOfBattles
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    edited October 2017
    Well it kinda is because if the community is tight, then everyone knows everyone, so you know who's the botters and who is not, In GRAZED it was easy to pick out botters from normal players, they seemed to always have jibberish IGN's none of them had any brains to make a normal IGN that wouldn't make it obvious...

    If I assume they're a botter well then I don't buy from their shop, so all I need to do is assume it and I will not buy it.
    If someone has tons and tons of boss drops I normally don't buy from them because it's very suspicious to me.

    Err, I don't often see shops with gibberish igns. Either MYBCKN is low on botter merchant, or they just idk, gave it to another account/character that doesn't have a gibberish name? I don't see why that wouldn't be a possibility. Also, there's no way that I, or many other people are going to know everyone's ign, on alts, or other accounts because the "Community is tight".
  • pandabunniespandabunnies
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    edited October 2017
    We just need to get rid of these botters, having them around will turn away newbies like crazy.
    Getting rid of botters is very simple, stop giving the demand for them to bot it's that simple.
    See you people wanna blame Nexon for botters and dupers for your problems, news flash YOUR the ones buying their stuff.
    If it's not you, then it's one of your friends, or guild members, or their friends and their guild members.

    Don't buy their boss drops don't buy their items don't buy their mesos, when you do that well they're no longer making any money so they will be wasting money paying for a program that is no longer funding them.

    Think of this what if Nexon was to stop releasing content for this game?
    Would they be able to sell you something new that you'd buy and would make them money? Nope.
    So if they can't supply you with content to keep you paying they're not gonna make money.

    I mean, you're technically right, but it's not always easy to spot botter shops. I doubt all of them have multiple stacks of 100 items in their shops. As for buying mesos, I agree, it's really stupid of people to buy mesos from websites. I'd love see someone try to call me out for saying that one

    Buying mesos from those sites sounds like a great way to have your identity stolen if you ask me. By the way, does anyone know if any botters use auction house? Do they just stick to FM?
  • ZephyrusSpringZephyrusSpring
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    edited October 2017
    Does anyone know if any botters use auction house? Do they just stick to FM?

    I don't see why they wouldn't use the auction house. Bots aren't fully automated things you know. Every now and again the ones behind it check in to transfer their treasure to another account and sell it from there. Steer clear of bulk sale clean slates and other goodies. Always buy from the low quantity offers.
  • AKradianAKradian
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    edited October 2017
    By the way, does anyone know if any botters use auction house? Do they just stick to FM?

    They do sell in AH, and it's a lot harder to tell because you can't see a seller name. Only clue we have is the size of the stacks, or multiple stacks in the exact same price.

  • pandabunniespandabunnies
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    edited October 2017
    AKradian wrote: »
    By the way, does anyone know if any botters use auction house? Do they just stick to FM?

    They do sell in AH, and it's a lot harder to tell because you can't see a seller name. Only clue we have is the size of the stacks, or multiple stacks in the exact same price.

    Ah, of course they do. *sigh*

    I don't see why they wouldn't use the auction house. Bots aren't fully automated things you know. Every now and again the ones behind it check in to transfer their treasure to another account and sell it from there. Steer clear of bulk sale clean slates and other goodies. Always buy from the low quantity offers.

    Good to know, thanks!
  • pandabunniespandabunnies
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    edited October 2017
    Buying mesos from those sites sounds like a great way to have your identity stolen if you ask me. By the way, does anyone know if any botters use auction house? Do they just stick to FM?

    LMAO Get your "identity" stolen, yeah because we all know they ask for your SS# and your credit cards, Passports, ect ect ect...

    You're worried about that kinda stuff and you think because you've a anti-virus that your computer is perfectly fine and your computer is not infected, lawls, just goes to show you don't know anything about what really goes on here on the Internet...

    But hey! if them software help give you that false sense of security more power to you!
    I've been into the computer security field possibly longer then you've been on the internet.
    You'd be surprised to know what I know about stuff you wouldn't even believe or understand and only people who keep up with that kinda stuff or are into that kinda stuff know.

    You got a half hour you should watch my video I did called, Real Hacker VS Corporate Hacker where I explain a bit of what I'm talking about in this post, and it's all public if you know where to look and take the time to read up on it but a lot of people don't care...

    By the way if your looking for that video just add my forum name at the end of Youtube.com/
    Watch it if you wanna understand don't watch it if you don't wanna educate yourself on what happens online...

    So, just because they don't ask for that stuff it doesn't mean those sites are safe. Ever hear of a keylogger? And no, I don't think that just because I have anti-virus it means I'm safe. Way to make assumptions. Also, pro tip, being a condescending jerk isn't the best way to advertise your content. I certainly won't be watching anything you put out. You know what they say, people who think they're really smart usually aren't.
  • krskkrsk
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    edited October 2017
    Catooolooo wrote: »
    Acgnolia wrote: »
    Chukki wrote: »
    It'll be awful for a new player that just started playing to see these worlds.

    I really hope Nexon starts thinking about merging servers because this isn't funny anymore.

    The goal here is for Nexon to bring in more NEW PLAYERS but this isn't helping it.

    More New Players = More Money

    The goal here is to construct the community, not deconstruct it.

    that new player stuff aint happening

    not without better than minimum effort advertising and better PR

    Part of it too is just that there's no real community anymore. I mean back in the day all the old PQs really helped you to make new friends but now they give such dismal exp and the rewards are pretty lackluster. Guilds are essentially worthless because there's no sort of guild related competition aside from flag race which is dull at best, and training overall is better solo. A lot of people came to maple due to word of mouth, but the words coming out of most players mouths now are about how awful nexon is to their customers, how mundane the gameplay has been, and how everything costs so much money in this giant online casino. What we need is competition not based entirely on who can spend the most money, and community enhancing events/content to help make the game more interesting overall.
  • ArlongArlong
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    edited October 2017
    I come back from a hiatus and it seems over half the population in my server moved out and the lag still isn't completely fixed. I'm never getting a match in murgoth. Maybe I'll go back to memeing .
  • DarkPassengerDarkPassenger
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    edited October 2017
    Players most likely will return for a brief period of time when the Nova and Illium class are patched in
    krsk
  • pandabunniespandabunnies
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    edited October 2017
    krsk wrote: »
    Catooolooo wrote: »
    Acgnolia wrote: »
    Chukki wrote: »
    It'll be awful for a new player that just started playing to see these worlds.

    I really hope Nexon starts thinking about merging servers because this isn't funny anymore.

    The goal here is for Nexon to bring in more NEW PLAYERS but this isn't helping it.

    More New Players = More Money

    The goal here is to construct the community, not deconstruct it.

    that new player stuff aint happening

    not without better than minimum effort advertising and better PR

    Part of it too is just that there's no real community anymore. I mean back in the day all the old PQs really helped you to make new friends but now they give such dismal exp and the rewards are pretty lackluster. Guilds are essentially worthless because there's no sort of guild related competition aside from flag race which is dull at best, and training overall is better solo. A lot of people came to maple due to word of mouth, but the words coming out of most players mouths now are about how awful nexon is to their customers, how mundane the gameplay has been, and how everything costs so much money in this giant online casino. What we need is competition not based entirely on who can spend the most money, and community enhancing events/content to help make the game more interesting overall.

    I never did PQs in the day, but I kinda want to try 'em. Too bad there's no one to do them with.
    krsk
  • AcgnoliaAcgnolia
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    edited October 2017
    Arlong wrote: »
    I come back from a hiatus and it seems over half the population in my server moved out and the lag still isn't completely fixed. I'm never getting a match in murgoth. Maybe I'll go back to memeing .

    By December im sure Nexon will do something, theirs no way, they will leave the population distribution this way
    krsk