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Nexon should buff map spawns and remove kishin
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Remember when Nexon said they would add in multiple ways to increase meso gain for Reboot after the level change in non-KMS areas? Yeah I'm still waiting for those as well.
Frankly I'm expecting the same thing to happen if they remove Kishin / Frenzy. They'll remove them, announce that they're thinking of ways / methods to remedy the situation and compensate accordingly and then do nothing.
like y'all scream about removing kish but you don't even give a compensation for the kanna mains lmfao. it's actually laughable.
nexon will most likely never make frenzy totem available in reboot because it's a marvel item. and decent kishin bc kishin as it sits is already 30%(?) more spawn and a decent kish will be like what? anywhere between 5-10% more spawn? that's not even justifiable amount of extra mobs with the rate people kill at.
By the title alone though, I hope none of you get surprised when Nexon does remove Kishin and gives you no replacement. No spawn rate boost, no decent nodes, nothing, because the only audible sound you masses are shouting to the heavens at Nexon is the thread title.
Yeah some of you tried to present alternatives, but it’s always after the fact. Always after the bombastic ‘Kishin is a problem’ or ‘Please remove kishin’. Arwoo going off to discuss Kishin as a PROBLEM doesn’t bode well for any of you expecting a fair and well implemented resolution. RIP Kishin, you were great to have while you were here.
Their minds are too young to understand the implications of the way they go about things.
they should remove both tho.
im pretty sure nexon is legally obliged to keep marvel items in the game from being removed (unless its duped), the only thing they could do is remove it from the machine/philo boxes.
or maybe if it wouldnt be that rare, or more achievable for most players it'd be okay.
or just simply remove the monolyth skill from it, and replace with another. would be an easy solution, i guess.
They're not legally obligated to do anything. The ToS we all sign says our accounts belong to Nexon and they can do whatever they wish to them at any time.
Just recently, they removed all Nebulites from the game, including those won from Marvel, Gachapon, and other cash sources.
You’re telling me they can straight up remove gambling rewards from paying customers? Yikes
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So while demand for these services are high, all the in-game items are highly deflated to where people trying to make a living to afford such services are putting too much money into a meso sink where there's no money going back into the market. TL;DR people are putting too much supply into a little demand market because all the demand is placed on a service that can't be resold after that service has been issued i.e. Totem/Fire Starter, even MVP buffs. I'm excluding normal kishin service because from all these megaphone messages I see, it's rare that someone would buy kishin service over Frenzy Totem service. These people own the game because they're making more money than they could spend because of how rare these items are in the game because they are pay to gamble loot box items or require a 2nd computer or account.
I could pay 35mil to buy a frenzy cast that lasts, like what? 10 minutes? But that isn't going back into the economy, but rather into the hands of someone with 5 or more characters with max mesos in their inventory, who will only sell the mesos on the black market in an effort to gain back more than what they've lost trying to get these items in the first place.
Long Story short, You CAN remove kishin but these things should happen too: Remove Frenzy, Remove Firestarter, Superbuff Kanna (i meant it, pre nerf Damage back plus more damage because pre nerf Kanna was already realy weak), Revamp Kishin to be a Turret Like skill that Deals high Damage
they wont remove a big money winning item like frenzy
even if it wouldnt get removed, it should be more achievable. because atm it costs about 1500b~ mesos i guess?
and grinding a kanna and running a second pc takes pretty much time, and ofc another computer.
You can Always party up with a kanna, Yes party play is still a thing, people should be encouraged to play in a party but its nexon's fault for creating the meta we've been in for the longest time so i get you also want increased spawn for yourself, but if we gonna keep comparing classes illium basicaly has a instant full map clear in most maps, so did Lumi before they got nerfed (they probably were a bit too harst on Lumi tho), Bishop has a 70% exp buff, Demon avenger has 500k HP, Nightlord can Nuke bosses faster then Nexon can come up with another Kanna nerf (They very fast boi ), We souldnt compare classes, because if we keep doing that, noone will be able to enjoy this game, If you want Kishin so bad try maining a Kanna, but noone thinks to themselves why not main kanna? Because Kanna is a bad class with or without kishin Kanna will Always be lackluster in every other department.
Again long story short: Every class is good at a certain thing and if you are jealous of a certain class because of a certain skill, try playing that class (i also have been guilty of making this assumption before) And by playing i don't mean train it to140 or 200 for a legion mule, Full on main it
So your solution to this toxic game meta is that everyone should switch to Kanna mains?
i like to point out nexon never removed neb coupons from the game you know the one from black friday sales as a few of my friends still have em in their cs
I kinda like this idea, would definitely give me an incentive to grind somewhere other than clp.
I don't think kish or frenzy should be removed or changed. I made it to 225 without either of them and at this point it's easy to afford service for a few hours every now and then, should i so desire. Personally I'd rather spend my hard-earned mesos on attempting to improve my equips. If you want to lvl a kish mule to 225 or higher or use real money to try and get a frenzy totem, that's your own choice. Nobody is forcing you to buy or sell service. Be patient and you'll get it done eventually, with or without service. Leave kish and frenzy in the game for people who want to make use of it.