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Anti-afk mobs...

Zaros_RunaZaros_Runa
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edited October 2019 in Suggestions, Feedback, and Requests
So I was just reading the quest and...
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Add to their annoyance the fact that I play the character with the lowest survavility in the game and you get a jackpot... but that's a complain for another time.

Do we need those things? They get in the way while you traverse maps or change channels... They find the perfect moment to spawn when you take that much needed 30 seconds break to go to the toilet (which happens to be enough time to remove those juicy exp buffs that you were so happily using).

They are just trouble, please hit me up with a reason why those things should exist. I can't see it.

My point here... my suggestion is: please, get rid of them.
HuskyDMSkyfall1989WONDERGUYdarikPrideKuronekonova

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  • Zaros_RunaZaros_Runa
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    edited October 2019
    Maybe they should listen a bit... we aren't asking for the impossible here, those things are nothing but trouble.
    HuskyDMdarikWONDERGUYPrideKuronekonova
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited October 2019
    Everyone hates them, has complained about them for ages, nexon doesn't care. And, as far as gms is concerned, they're a solution looking for a problem. The reason for their existence overseas in kms simply does not occur in gms.

    Also, as an aside, I'd just like to say that I really love the unmentioned change some months back where potion lock was changed from simply restricting your use of potions to wholly blocking the use of everything in your use tab.
    Zaros_RunaHuskyDMdarikPrideKuronekonova
  • HuskyDMHuskyDM
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    edited October 2019
    They do nothing and further shows all they do is copy-paste whatever KMS does without thinking on the unique characteristics of our version of the game. I have no idea what problem KMS has that requires anti-afk bots but what I know is that they do nothing here and never will.
    WONDERGUYKuronekonova
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited October 2019
    HuskyDM wrote: »
    They do nothing and further shows all they do is copy-paste whatever KMS does without thinking on the unique characteristics of our version of the game. I have no idea what problem KMS has that requires anti-afk bots but what I know is that they do nothing here and never will.

    People essentially squatting in maps to lay claim to them. Not actively using the map, just sitting in it. As I'm sure you're aware, squatting in a map to stake your claim to it gets you laughed at here.
    Dnaman101Kuronekonova
  • YinYangXYinYangX
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    edited October 2019
    Not saying it's a good use, but the anti-afk mob in Arcana is needed for Monster Collection.
    (Not saying I like the anti-afk mob, just putting one [small] example why we would need them. Unless you can collect it in SS by body slamming them there. xd)
    WONDERGUYKuronekonova
  • Skyfall1989Skyfall1989
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    edited October 2019
    I have to say this auto-mob spawn setting is really dumb, they fly to you with a booster in their ass once you enter a high-level map. They hit you and bind you with high percentage HP drop, but you can't use any potions. One time, with the laggy of my laptop, I was dead when I saw the screen. Really stupid and dumb setting, needs to be removed definitely.
    Dnaman101
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited October 2019
    It's 10% per hit, so it's not really "high percentage". The problem comes in that there's almost no invincibility period between taking hits, so you eat two or three 10% hits in the span of a second.
    Kuronekonova
  • MiraMira
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    edited October 2019
    Aggraphine wrote: »
    It's 10% per hit, so it's not really "high percentage". The problem comes in that there's almost no invincibility period between taking hits, so you eat two or three 10% hits in the span of a second.

    The actual real problem lies in when you don't have enough Arcane Force to not take 1 damage.
  • FuhreakFuhreak
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    edited October 2019
    Mira wrote: »
    Aggraphine wrote: »
    It's 10% per hit, so it's not really "high percentage". The problem comes in that there's almost no invincibility period between taking hits, so you eat two or three 10% hits in the span of a second.

    The actual real problem lies in when you don't have enough Arcane Force to not take 1 damage.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Anti-AFK mobs don't care about AF?
  • zoutzakjezoutzakje
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    edited October 2019
    yeah ARC means nothing against the anti-afk mobs. Honestly I'm fine with these mobs existing, they usually don't pose much of a problem. Except for the example in the OP. At least this one had the "close" option in the bottom left corner. Not all of them do. I got killed in Esfera prequests because of this. Thank god i was carrying safety charms.
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited October 2019
    If they aren't going to be removed, they need to have their contact damage cut by half or characters need a substantially longer invincibility period between taking damage without the need of potentials.
    Dnaman101
  • FuhreakFuhreak
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    edited October 2019
    Aggraphine wrote: »
    If they aren't going to be removed, they need to have their contact damage cut by half or characters need a substantially longer invincibility period between taking damage without the need of potentials.

    I think adding a grace period when logging in that you cannot take damage during would help.
    Maybe add this grace period to runes/herbs/rocks as well, since sometimes (more so at lower levels) you can get screwed trying to grab these.
    During any kind of quest box like that you should be invincible honestly. Maybe limit it for abuse as well, but seriously. It's not fun having that happen.
    HuskyDMDnaman101PrideYinYangXZaros_Runa
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited October 2019
    Fuhreak wrote: »
    Aggraphine wrote: »
    If they aren't going to be removed, they need to have their contact damage cut by half or characters need a substantially longer invincibility period between taking damage without the need of potentials.

    I think adding a grace period when logging in that you cannot take damage during would help.
    Maybe add this grace period to runes/herbs/rocks as well, since sometimes (more so at lower levels) you can get screwed trying to grab these.
    During any kind of quest box like that you should be invincible honestly. Maybe limit it for abuse as well, but seriously. It's not fun having that happen.

    So many ways they could've implemented these stupid things better.
  • MiraMira
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    edited October 2019
    Fuhreak wrote: »
    Mira wrote: »
    Aggraphine wrote: »
    It's 10% per hit, so it's not really "high percentage". The problem comes in that there's almost no invincibility period between taking hits, so you eat two or three 10% hits in the span of a second.

    The actual real problem lies in when you don't have enough Arcane Force to not take 1 damage.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Anti-AFK mobs don't care about AF?

    You are not incorrect about the damage from the mob itself - that is 10% damage per hit. But, when you are then taking ~5-10k damage from the actual mobs, and cannot heal because you're potlocked, you end up getting screwed and can't do a damn thing about it.
    Zaros_RunaDnaman101
  • FuhreakFuhreak
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    edited October 2019
    Mira wrote: »
    Fuhreak wrote: »
    Mira wrote: »
    Aggraphine wrote: »
    It's 10% per hit, so it's not really "high percentage". The problem comes in that there's almost no invincibility period between taking hits, so you eat two or three 10% hits in the span of a second.

    The actual real problem lies in when you don't have enough Arcane Force to not take 1 damage.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Anti-AFK mobs don't care about AF?

    You are not incorrect about the damage from the mob itself - that is 10% damage per hit. But, when you are then taking ~5-10k damage from the actual mobs, and cannot heal because you're potlocked, you end up getting screwed and can't do a damn thing about it.

    I would just use the new AF hyper to reduce damage to 1 for VJ, it's easy enough and makes the prequest less of a pain in the ass.
    As for the areas after that... Just do your dailies every day and we won't have any trouble, okay there buddy? [Nexon Glare Intensifies]
  • YinYangXYinYangX
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    edited October 2019
    Fuhreak wrote: »
    During any kind of quest box like that you should be invincible honestly. Maybe limit it for abuse as well, but seriously. It's not fun having that happen.

    Not saying it's a bad idea, but the biggest issue I can think of Nexon running into is the exit message in boss maps.

  • ApocalyptianApocalyptian
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    edited November 2019
    It's not like hackers or botters are gonna get that far. It's annoying. It is also a huge problem while doing 5th job quests on a mule in that dark tree area to chase that idiot npc. They knock you off ropes and make it also impossible to climb. So frustrating! It's got to be changed!
    Dnaman101
  • AggraphineAggraphine
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    edited November 2019
    Hackers and bots do get that far though.
    Fuhreak
  • FuhreakFuhreak
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    edited November 2019
    Apocalyptian wrote: »
    It's not like hackers or botters are gonna get that far. It's annoying. It is also a huge problem while doing 5th job quests on a mule in that dark tree area to chase that idiot npc. They knock you off ropes and make it also impossible to climb. So frustrating! It's got to be changed!

    I've seen plenty of 240+ hackers.
  • darikdarik
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    edited November 2019
    Anti afk mobs its just another stupid and annoying feature they implemented that does nothing for the players.