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SunsetChaos wrote: »

While we're at it, what about the Growing Sylph Ring? The critical damage version. I think it got reduced to 5%.

It got reduced back when Nexon changed the way critical damage is calculated.
Before that change, there were separate "Minimum Critical Damage" and "Maximum Critical Damage" and the crit damage added to any hit was a random number between the two. Different skills and items (like the Sylph Ring) would raise either the min or the max, with the effect that the actual average damage only went up by half that much.
After the change, we only have a single "Critical Damage" number, so all items and skills that used to give min or max crit were changed to give half as much plain crit damage. So the average does not change.
The Explorer's Critical and Cruel rings were overlooked back then, which is why it makes some sense that their critical damage would be halved now.

However, I'd like to point out that these rings were actually a lot more overpowered back when they were released, and yet Nexon saw fit to give them.

The rings were given in June of 2010, before potential. Items giving % buffs were uncommon. An item like Lilin's Ring, giving 3 allstat and 3 att/m.att, was considered sufficient motivation to level an Aran to 70. And yet, this Explorer Ring event gave 3 variations of the crit ring (Cruel, Critical, and Magical), with 10-20% max crit damage each. These rings were meant to be a very powerful reward for a very difficult challenge.

Today, crit damage is a lot easier to come by, and the rings competing for a spot on our fingers can all have high %stat potential, as well as plenty of stats/attack if scrolled and enhanced. The old Cruel ring, while still respectable, is not nearly so OP as to need nerfing. And as I wrote before, so few people still have theirs on their main character, that it would not harm the game in any way to let us keep them with the 20% crit damage.

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On Friday's stream, Arwoo said that, in response to our feedback, a change is being made to the rings. He did not say what change or when we will see it, but it's still good to hear that the rings won't be left in their current scrap metal state.

Not all of them.

Orchiroid still has her shop.
Louie-roid lost his.

Just because someone complained that the new (I assume "Pivotal") rings are garbage compared to the old, doesn't mean the old ones need to become garbage as well.

That said, according to VFM Slatymate, the stat change might only be adjusting the rings for the new way critical damage is calculated, since the ring originally only gave a boost to max crit damage, not both min and max. That would be justified, strictly speaking, justified. But still, I feel, unnecessary. The ring is not tradeable, so it's probably only being used by a handful of players who haven't switched mains in 8 years. There's really no harm to the game in letting these players keep their rings, that they worked hard to earn, as a reward for loyalty.

Neospector wrote: »

Cadena91 wrote: »

I wish they could just fix it and close this thread already -_-

I can't particularly fix anything that's not broken; I can't restore ownership of the thread, if that's what you're asking, because the forum software doesn't allow me to. The poll is gone for the same reason, although it's not particularly necessary.

I can see every post on this thread, but you've spent more posts complaining about how I merged the threads than you have discussing the issue at hand, so it's rather hard to see where you're going with this.

I've PM'ed you a detailed explanation of the issue.

These rankings should be changed so the secondary sort key is something else: character name, level, total exp, creation date - anything that won't give away more information than intended.
And until they are changed, they should be disabled.

A workaround was posted on the subreddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Maplestory/comments/7fsgyr/nova_website_rewards_bug_how_to_get_around_it/