MargoViolet

WONDERGUY wrote: »

MargoViolet wrote: »

WONDERGUY wrote: »

economy cant be fixed with so many hackers around and all the broken p2w items that come from lootbox only

your suggestion for more meso from crystal will only make biger inflation
in other hand so much events/content its made around NX and $ (DMT bonus cube,philo,marvel,legendary familiar ..)
that makes meso almost a worthless currency
yea sure you can go and buy MP from meso market but that one again depends all on whales and how much they want to $$ on MP

nexon makes so much meso sinks and yet cant keep with what hackers make and all that broken $$$ items
and its not about just geting hackers ban

doesnt matter if 2o2klmlufifhn9272qqwd992e after week of botting gets ban if all that meso/items from botting gets in the market

You don't understand, mesos cost is up 1500% because there are no botters right now.

Nexon has done a decent job making hacks go offline for the time being. but that also means mesos rates are stuck very high at the moment.

This is the economy without hacks interfering on a large scale. Mesos is definitely not a useless currency. If you bought any from the mesos market (in the fm of course) a year ago, your returns would have been better than any stock you invested in. (at around 1300-1500%)

i said that hackers and broken p2w things makes meso almost a worthless currency

a bilion at the time when we had 10b cap was more worthy then a bilion now
or
you can see by bots advertiseing their ilegal rates (offering more meso for less $ each few months )

nexon knows from the data that there is alot meso in the market and makes the content to follow that market
but they fail to see that those meso are not in our hands and we cant make that meso or items in a legal way
more meso from the crystal or monsters its just buff for botters and more inflation for us

You don't understand, mesos cost is up 1500% because there are no botters right now.

from what i can see nexon bans 50k - 1m botters each weak
playerbase its far less then those numbers ( 5-10k +- source from last micro site event and other things)

calculate/imagine yourself how much meso/items can those bots generates in the market each week and how much legit can be done
KMS rate cant be applied to GMS they dont have the amount of boters we do and the amount of broken $$ things we also do

even emphasizing "almost" still makes that assertion utterly wrong. Like I said, 1500% increase in value over a year is not a worthless currency - imagine yourself investing $10,000 into mesos last year, you would have $150,000 if you cashed out anytime between last month-now. (and that isn't as far fetched as you'd think). Mesos has gone up and down during the years yes, but its not even close to worthless. People have made hundreds of thousands of dollars off mesos, pre BB and now.

The reality is botters will always find a way back, its kind of like 'spy-vs-spy', Nexon or botters will develop new code to counter the others. Creating more channels for making mesos in game would at least minimize the impact this has. But without Nexon implementing new sources of mesos, this market is for the taking.

Aggraphine wrote: »

MargoViolet wrote: »

You don't understand, mesos cost is up 1500% because there are no botters right now.

Nexon has done a decent job making hacks go offline for the time being. but that also means mesos rates are stuck very high at the moment.

This is the economy without hacks interfering on a large scale. Mesos is definitely not a useless currency. If you bought any from the mesos market (in the fm of course) a year ago, your returns would have been better than any stock you invested in. (at around 1300-1500%)

So do people want bots keeping prices low or do they want bots to go away so the economy can recover and stabilize itself with the understanding that it may stabilize itself at a higher price point than what they grew accustomed to?

It's harder to take the moral stance when it's at your financial expense. I'm pointing out how some players are oblivious to the role botters have in the affordability of their game play. You should be outraged, as this game is already very expensive to play if you are planning to enjoy boss/end game content.

Excited to see the stabilization you think will happen in a market so volatile the rates can jump 1500%. - very naive thinking. Nexon keeping mesos rates high only acts as further incentive for hacks to be developed as well. This actually is a great opportunity for them to create new mesos channels, as although hackers will be back, its not every day Nexon gets them to go offline.

Personally I've benefited significantly from all this. But i'm sure on the macro scale this is bad.
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WONDERGUY wrote: »

economy cant be fixed with so many hackers around and all the broken p2w items that come from lootbox only

your suggestion for more meso from crystal will only make biger inflation
in other hand so much events/content its made around NX and $ (DMT bonus cube,philo,marvel,legendary familiar ..)
that makes meso almost a worthless currency
yea sure you can go and buy MP from meso market but that one again depends all on whales and how much they want to $$ on MP

nexon makes so much meso sinks and yet cant keep with what hackers make and all that broken $$$ items
and its not about just geting hackers ban

doesnt matter if 2o2klmlufifhn9272qqwd992e after week of botting gets ban if all that meso/items from botting gets in the market

You don't understand, mesos cost is up 1500% because there are no botters right now.

Nexon has done a decent job making hacks go offline for the time being. but that also means mesos rates are stuck very high at the moment.

This is the economy without hacks interfering on a large scale. Mesos is definitely not a useless currency. If you bought any from the mesos market (in the fm of course) a year ago, your returns would have been better than any stock you invested in. (at around 1300-1500%)

Wow these are all ugly as hell.. arcane claw is almost as big as the characters body... I think they design them poorly so we are enticed to buying nx covers/anvils loool

DarkPassenger wrote: »

Yeah, what I meant to say by that is they already know it is a suggestion that a lot of players want. Meaning one more person's opinion wont make it any more important. They know already. It's not an easy thing to plan for. In conjunction to other content being planned.

I belive they also need to get approval from KMS, not entirely sure about that, but seeing as KMS owns the intellectual property, it's safe to assume they do, especially being a big change.

So, not only do they need to work out a plan to implement things, how the restructuring may be, where anyone involved in the planning is comfortable and content, they have to get approval.

So, it doesn't matter how many people want it now, it won't get here now.

I personally don't care how many people there are in Channel 1 Henesy in any server, I don't play the game to be in channel 1 henesy. I play windia, I have buddies I do some bosses with or dailies, and that's all that really matters. I don't need a whole populated server just to be able to play. it'd be best not to judge a server's population by how many people want to lounge around in henesy channel 1.

You still are missing the point.. wdym one more persons opinion doesn't make it more important? Where is the point of dimishing returns for players voicing their opinion in a suggestions forum? We cannot determine when more players asking for something becomes useless, otherwise we shouldn't have threads but rather short individual posts without the ability to respond in agreement or disagreement.

It doesn't need to come right this instant, that's not the objective of the post, but rather to express it's continuing importance and the lack of competency in addressing this issue in a timely manner. Regardless of needing approval it's been over a year since these complaints started from the last attempt at solving this problem (the server xfer of 2017) so I don't blame players for feeling that they need to keep pressing this issue to see action, because we HAVEN'T seen action since 2017, considering the state of the game that is simply bad management.

I do not lounge around in ch 1 henesys either, however it demonstrates how much of a problem the population is when 5 bots outnumber real players in one of the most popular maps.. you can try to say that isn't a problem but it'd be delusional for a gamer to not understand how an MMORPG is suffering when half a dozen bots are all the players on a given map.

I understand you personally don't need a whole populated server to play a mmorpg, but it's common sense to understand why others would, right? You might not need it but you surely aren't strongly appalled by the idea of increasing the population are you? Because people on the other side of the spectrum are strongly appalled by the lack of people in their server. So yes, they are going to keep complaining, and Nexon saying 'one moment please' isn't going to stop people from complaining about this situation. Not like we're expecting change today, but for the interest of players and Nexon as a business, increasing the population efficiently would be a very good idea.