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Elite Monster Premium Drops
Has anyone noticed since the patch the drop rate for the 'premium' items (blades, flames, etc) has been neutered ? It's like it's back to the old drop table from before the increase was instigated. I'm hoping this is just another oversight/bug to add onto Nexon's heaping pile since this update, but some official word on the matter would be nice, especially since there was a note in the patch notes about 'increasing the drop rate of blades/flames.'
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I have never ever received a Eternal or Powerful flame from any boss, and I've been doing them basically daily since flames were released, so you have some insane luck lol.
Either way, glad to know that they have, indeed, reduced the drop rate.
Regardless, there is no confirmed drop rate nerf. Not all items drop all the time, it's random.
Okay, but when you go from getting a cubic blade/relentless flame 95% of the time, and then don't see a single item in 9 kills, that is more than a coincidence. Since my post, I've killed ~20 more elite monsters, and have received 2 cubic blades amongst all those kills. That is not coincidence, that is a decided reduction in drop rate.
I've killed plenty of elite monsters prior to the update and didn't see any cubic blades. I also killed my 4th one an hour ago and got a chaos cubic.
It wasn't nerfed the last 20 times people claimed it was nerfed, I don't see it likely being nerfed now.
You're unlucky, give it some time and you'll be getting cubics again.
Edit: I should also note that the feedback has already been received, and was mentioned in the Maple Memo.
http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/50256/maple-memo-v205-status-update-june-14
June 14
15 elite monster killed.
4 dropped unrelenting flame. (first 4 elite monster)
June 15
69 elite monster killed, 27 dropped items.
12 dropped cubic blade. (1st, 23rd, 25th, 28th, 39th, 41st, 42nd, 45th, 49th, 50th, 67th, 69th elite monster dropped)
4 dropped cubic chaos blade. (2nd, 12th, 19th, 34th elite monster dropped)
1 dropped forever unrelenting flame. (3rd elite monster dropped)
6 dropped unrelenting flame. (5th, 6th, 10th, 18th, 22nd, 26th, 46th, 55th, 56th elite monster dropped)
3 golden hammer (9th, 30th, 38th elite monster dropped)
1 silver pot stamp (24th elite monster dropped)
40th elite monster was messenger of darkness, dropped nothing.
That's what everything sounds like so far.
I'm in a similar situation - I've killed about 20 elite monsters yesterday, and 3 times I've received an item it's only been cubic blade, haven't received any of the other typical rewards. Could possibly be a coincidence about the resurgence of the same item dropping, but it is suspicious.
You guys are acting like we have made this snap decision based off of absolutely no information. I have asked multiple people in my buddy list and alliance, and in the Maple Discord if they are receiving fewer rewards than before, and all of them have noticed the decrease. Are you trying to tell me that ~30 people are overreacting ? When you are going from getting drops 95% of the time (I have Blue Wolf (2x drop) and drop gear) for the last 2 months, and then the last three days since the patch getting drops ~15% of the time, it's hard not to note that something has changed. I'm estimating that I've killed 40 elite monsters total since the patch - pre-patch, I would have received rewards for about 38 of those monsters. Now, I've received rewards from ~6-8 ? That is way more than 'unlucky' or 'just random' or 'rigged.'
I've had days where I found double digit nodes, a day where I found 3 arcane symbol drops (no drop gear) and weeks at a time where I don't find anything.
It's not that strange to doubt a claim made over the course of a few days since the patch.
The 30 other people may just be confirmation bias. Have you talked to anyone who has been finding more of these items since the patch?
Not saying you're wrong, not saying you're right. But this kind of thing is prone to bias in both directions.
Personally I haven't noticed anything different. But I'm also not looking out for it.
The main point of this thread is that elite monster don't drop their valuable item 100% of the time anymore, anything else is off topic and should be talked about on a different thread.
No, I haven't, because every single person I've spoken to agrees that the drop rate has been reduced. Even last night on 3x drop, with my 2x drop blue wolf and drop gear, I was still getting drops maybe 30% of the time. When something has a near 100% drop rate, as Rexaar mentioned, it is exceedingly easy to notice when it has been reduced so drastically.
I'm not saying this as an attack on you specifically, because you haven't outrightly stated that I'm wrong as others have, but it annoys me when people who aren't 'looking out for it' are quick to judge those who are paying attention to things like this. I do understand there is the possibility of people to post wild unbased conspiracy theories, but when these naysayers don't even have the proof to properly refute these claims, I'm not sure why they're even bothering to comment.
At this point I believe enough different people have confirmed the fact that the drop rate has been reduced, which is all this thread was meant to do.
I believe this is what happened:
The KMS Adventure patch increased their drop rate for these items.
GMS drop rate for these and other premium rewards has already been greatly increased (to near 100%, as observed upthread) a while back.
GMS Adventure patch copied the KMS Adventure drop rates, which while "increased" for KMS, are lower than what GMS had.
SavageAce mentioned "Decreased Cubic Blade, Chaos Cubic Blade, and flame drops" in his latest memo, as something Nexon is looking into. Hopefully they will restore our higher drop rates, since the intention was to increase, not reduce them.
I probably didn't notice because Reboot doesn't have blades, so all I have to go off of is the lower rate items.
Regardless if a series of posters are bias, unbased, whatever, Nexon themselves should at least look into any issues to be claimed/supported by a mass number of players and confirm if something is up or not.
Nexon has far more resources (Plus they get paid to do this kind of stuff) than players/VFMs have when it comes to this.
Based on the memo/AKradian's post, I'd say Nexon already did this, but it seems it got overlooked.
A quick "We're aware of the issue, thanks for pointing it out!" from Nexon in the thread of question (this one) would have been nice.
It's in the memo.