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Closed Flag Race - Remove Teleport Skills
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but nexon .... turned things to solo play solo guild ,solo party quest ......
are we MMORPG or not ?
maplestory
myself i like mixed challnge JQ + skill teamwork and i think its good balanced as it is
( i did not see anyone say how only those 2 skill makes unfair and rest fine )
the idea to make chaos in the guild race and cannon all just to "win or make change"
was not nice and am sure wont work as i explained
Nice copy and pasted reply to two different comments. I didn't say anything about Flag Race needing "skills". And Flag Race is a guild event, meaning you do it with a guild with actual people and not a solo jump quest, hence why I keep saying teamwork, cause you need to work with your guildmates to finish.
Yes, Flag Race, which is a guild event, not a solo event (if you didn't know, go see if you get the flag race invite when not in a guild, >.>), hence, teamwork.
Please learn to do some research about what you're trying to talk about before looking like a complete idiot and trying to copy someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
It's only "completely unfair and ridiculous" if you don't have a guild to use it with, which is your fault for making a one man guild that no one wants to join, not Maplestory's or all the other real guild that actually have members.
No, you can't change your vote answer, but to be honest, don't think it'll make much difference because this isn't a formally watched/created thread by Nexon.
Telling someone else to learn how to read when you don't even bother reading what the original post said. *golf clap* xd
I'm sorry but I have to agree with them, the fact that we have Teleport Skills is totally unfair.
I have a guild but I always end up being alone and even though I'm very good at Flag Race, it's just impossible for me to finish even 2 rounds.
That's why I voted Yes, remove those skills, because they're really pissing me off.
Nothing to apologize for, everyone's free to have their own opinion, unlike what most of the users who keeps saying they're "100% right" think.
Jw, are other people in your guild doing Flag Race and just end up in different instances or are you the only one in the guild doing Flag Race in your guild? If it's the first, that's just bad luck, but if it's the second, it's basically the same as being in a one person guild, you're trying to do a guild event (something you should do with other guild members) by yourself. You should try doing a shout out in guild chat before Flag Race that you want teammates to help finish (but then that'd assume you guys would use the tp to finish then).
Well, I do think that they're 100% right, lol, I mean, it's really simple, and kinda make sense, just think about it, a Flag Race with no teleport skills, it'd be much more fair.
People (like me, and there are a lot of people like me) who are helpless (for example, without other guild members to help teleport with, or just guild members who are not that good at Flag Race) will have such a fair game finally when they don't need to depend on others but themselves only.
This is definitely make sense and the only way to make this Flag Race fair and I'm really hoping that Nexon will actually remove those two skills.
I also don't really understand the "look, this is my opinion" thingy, I mean, this is not about opinions but this is about who is right or not.
It's not a subject where you can talk about opinions, such as tastes, if A likes to drink tea and B hates to drink tea, then B can't tell to A that "look, tea sucks and this is my opinion, okay?", for example, in this case, it's totally right, why? cus it's about tastes, some ppl like tea and others don't, so in this kind of subject you might be right but when it comes to a situation where there is black or white, right or wrong, only 1 of us could be right. but you can't really come up with the "look, this is my opinion, if you don't accept others opinions then you're bad", no that's totally wrong, this isn't about tastes here that we're talking about but about black or white, right or wrong, and of course, the logic is on our side so basically, by removing those two skills will only make peace and love and would be the best solution to this problem.
Thank you and have a good day.
Okay, here's my question then, if Flag Race is suppose "to be fair" to solo players, how come you can only get a Flag Race invitation when you're in guild?
You don't need a guild mate who's good at Flag Race to use the tp skills if you're good at Flag Race yourself. You just need to get to the end, tp your guildmate to you, then have them stand there while you repeatedly tp back to them.
The only thing I'm hearing from the "remove tp" side is that it's unfair to solo players, which makes no sense since Flag Race was never meant to be done solo. It's like the same thing as asking them to remove min party limit on party quests cause you want to solo party quests.
Okay, fine, Flag Race is suppose to be a guild event, so they should keep the tp skills to be "fair" to guilds that encourage it's members to work together and encourage solo players to find teammates to finish Flag Race, that's is 100% right. >.>
Until the "remove tp" side can say why Flag Race shouldn't be an event that doesn't need teamwork or can say there's other ways to make it teamwork oriented, they are 100% wrong. >.>
Happy? Took out the opinion and made it the correct right or wrong. >.>
The original reason I said "opinion" is because almost nothing anyone said (myself included) is a complete fact, it's just something each person thinks. Facts are something everyone can agree on, doesn't matter what they think. The only "facts" are:
1. Flag Race is an event only those in a guild can participate it.
2. Flag Race has tp skills which allow guildmates to work together to finish the race.
3. Everyone has access to the tp skills and can use them if they meet the requiements.
Opinions:
1. Tp skills are unfair. (Not a fact, since not everyone thinks this and is just something solo Flag Racers complain about.)
2. Flag Race should be teamwork event. (Apparently some people don't think this is true, so not a fact. And while it's not explicitly stated, it is heavily implied considering the nature of the event.)
Also, what logic? "We want to do a team event solo and we're at a disadvantage cause we don't have team, so that's unfair." No, that's fair and it's your fault for not having a team. If you're going to throw around logic, try to make some sense first.
All it takes to use the TP skill is another member from the guild, and after that it's skill, coordination, and luck. If you can't get another member to participate with you, then expand the guild, get more members to participate, or find a more active guild. If you have guildmates with you but are having trouble winning, learn to use the TP skills more effectively together, because it is after all about teamwork.
If the OP can get a big guild and recruit a lot of members in order to try and sabotage the Flag Race event, my question is why the OP doesn't choose instead to expand his/her guild from the start to use the TP skills more effectively with more members. If you want the comfort and easier management of being in a small guild or in a guild by yourself, then it is clear that you will not get the benefits of having more members.
I don't even bother to read what they say about this.
This is why we have a poll for, to see what most of people think about it and as we all know, MOST of people said "Yes, to Remove it!"
A poll doesn't guarantee that actions will be taken.
OT: The point of a Flag Race is you are suppose to team up with others and gain points. The more members you have, the better the results will be. I don't agree with removing teleporting skills just because your guild is too small. As others have said, you want to expand your guild with more members that will help you with the Flag Race. The flag race wasn't designed to be a solo type of thing after all.
As a side note:
Let's respect others and avoid unnecessary attacks to derail the thread. Thank you.
Without them we are reduced to walking.
I don't go flag race, and I don't know how these teleporting skills work.
So, I'm not someone who uses these skills.
now people can cannon fulltime and you dont need teamwork & organisation
also made more annoying long race
just because people did not want teamup with their guildmates
GG for killing flag soon
If you have no idea how these teleporting skills work, and you also don't do flag race, then how can you even "think flag race is still fair with teleporting skills" when you don't know how these teleporting skills work?
See? even KMS (who are actually listen to their players) decided to remove them because they understand the truth without any interests.
I'm glad to hear that, and I can't wait for it to come to GMS
He did not break the rules.
Just because you're a moderator, it doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want, it does not mean that you're above us and above the law, we're all subject to the law.
Nobody said that "poll guarantee that actions will be taken", but it does say what MOST of players/people think and WANT.
It seems you might be like those guys who have a big guild with a LOT of people, when they can easily win at Flag Race all the time.
sometime its not what most want allways the best solution
but eyy its comeing we will see what will happend
sadly they ignore team work many times poor maple f4
My job is to moderate the forums, we have forum rules for a reason to control if anything goes bad or doesn't feel right. Looking at this thread right now, all I'm seeing is constant attacks among other users and not respecting others for their opinions.
We have rules regarding opinions.
http://forums.maplestory.nexon.net/discussion/6835/code-of-conduct#latest As a result, this thread will be locked.
Closing Reason: Starting conflicts and attacking among other users for giving their opinions.