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how exactly do you know we would be willing participants?
but to respond, if mods were allowed in a game, then it isnt considered against the Terms of Service, the point of speaking against this thread is that, using a third party source/program to modify your characters progress and mechanics, is against the Terms of Service. The big difference that neutralizes your assertion that we'd be hypocrites, is that modding and hacking isnt allowed in maplestory, whether theres time to finish all events and content or not. You cant compare something thats allowed in a separate entity to something that is written down as a bannable offense.
Since when does using words like "most" and "majority" signify one person or represent a grand total of all? Since never. You folks gawk about context, but have no problem taking everything said completely out of context. ~ Did your bridge burn down? ~ Run out of food?
The name of this sub-forum is (in case you're lost): NON-GMS CONTENT DISCUSSION. <~ This means it's not limited to "MapleDrama".
On another note; Now that I have your attention. ~ Do you support keyboard customizations for the handicapped; or is that too taboo??
Yeah okay, I've completely lost faith in that you're even making sense at this point. You don't even understand what this subforum is used for. If you actually bothered to read like you're so fond of accusing others of, you'd see that this subforum is, "Content discussions regarding other MapleStory services (unrelated to GMS)." This isn't off topic. This is a forum dedicated to talking about other Maplestory servers.
Do you support keyboard customizations for handicapped people? ~ and ~ What is the title of this thread?
Ok, seriously, are you a troll?
Take a long look in a mirror .... .
He's a troll.
dude, you are all sorts of confused
the Non-GMS section is to discuss other maple versions, this thread was made in the wrong sub-forum, and should either be rants and raves or off-topic sub forum sections because there is no legal version of maple that allows hacking or cheating or modding.
that said, I feel like what you were trying to say is that, anyone who paid any attention to the ToS (or understands that MMO's are not the same as other games they grab on steam, that allow mods) would not be surprised or complain about something like this, and if maplestory was a completely different type of game (a sandbox, build your own custom adventure game) people would (obviously) not complain.
which I completely agree with, and feel the comparison works fine because the thread starter seemed new to/did not comprehend these facts when they started playing (and even now still doesn't seem to completely understand)
but you tried to deliver it in a preachy way.
I'm not at all confused, but you do seem to understand the gist of what I'm saying (despite the glaring attempt to patronize me). I've been playing MapleStory for more than 10 years, and if that seems preachy it must have hit home in some major way. (I know where I am and what I am talking about). Where did I say anything in support of cheating or hacking the game? The answer is nowhere, at all; which puts the whole attempt to make a scene, out of what I said, in the trash. If I only had (or had use of) one hand, would you support my use of an advanced macro-system to play the game, or would you continue to parrot what you've been told, in protest of something alien to your 'way'? ~ (Content discussions regarding other MapleStory services (unrelated to GMS).)
you are quite confused cause you're looking for an augment.
please re-read my statement, I never said you were supporting modding or cheating. I was explaining why this thread is not meant to be in the Non-GMS sub forum, it's not about an update in JMS, CMS,TMS, MSEA or KMS and none of them have received updates that allow the use of hacks so by default it's not the right subforum. the discussion at hand and thread are more suited for either the off-topic section or Rants and Raves section.
lastly the part that came off preachy was "This thread wouldn't be half as meaningful if modding were not against the rules. You're only upset with each other because it is. " I feel like this statement was not intended to come off preachy, but the way you phrased it or worded it, it came off as saying the people telling them not to cheat were in the wrong. I understood what you meant, but the way you phased it seemed to have cause more conflict with others. which led to this statement "the likes of you who are up in arms the most would be willing participants of hypocrisy. " which was just unnecessary, as this thread was not about mods anyway.
If you want only an answer from the op, then PM him. This is a forum, you're going to get a lot of other opinions, if you can't understand that then there's not much point in trying to explain this to you.
That's exactly the same question I have for you, and not just with this thread. I understand your point of those who want mods should've known what they signed up for, I haven't been talking about that. My issue from the start was your statement that if this game had mods, no one would be angry right now. I responded as I did because I didn't understand the point of talking about mods on a game that doesn't have any in the first place. That wasn't even an issue until you brought it up. This entire thing isn't even based on mods. We're talking about why it's not okay to cheat vs. Justifying cheating.
I agree, I have no right over you or your opinion, and I'm sorry if it came off like that. I also agree that cheats could equal mods, however, the op explicitly mentions cheating/hacking far more than he does mods, which is why I was puzzled when you started talking about them. The parallel you have with cheating = mods would've helped considerably if you had established that earlier. Also, you're again, not wrong that if mods were allowed there wouldn't be much bickering, aside from the hacking part, which I don't think there's ever an excuse to do. I simply don't understand why that point was so necessary to focus on. I can't be held responsible for how you interpret my actions, especially when you've done nearly the same. If you believe I'm purposefully trying to derail the thread because I disagree with you, that's on you.
Please though feel free though to create a new thread for discussing keyboard customizations and other forms of accessibility for Maplers; in our Suggestions, Feedback, and Requests section.
Non-GMS Content Discussion
Content discussions regarding other MapleStory services (unrelated to GMS).
This subforum is for discussions of content from other versions of MapleStory.
So bringing up two games that aren't related to Maplestory means that you're the one that's off topic.