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crimson24 wrote: »

your examples are not

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relevant. none of these classes are losing anywhere close to 70% final damage that marksman loses when attacking up close.

You're looking at the glass half empty. You don't "lose 70%" for being up close, you "gain 70%" for being far away.

My examples are relevant because if they don't use their quirks, they "lose" a ton of damage, just like if marksman doesn't use it, they do too.
F/P for example, loses 125% final damage on myst eruption if they don't stack DoT first, that's far worse than 70%.
Consider the fact that Infinity also requires time to build up your damage. When infinity is up, you can easily gain twice your range.
However it has a 3 minute cooldown. If Marksman wants that 70% damage, all he has to do is move.
Explorer mages don't have that luxury. (less)

I think it's more those "other things" than the easy level 180.
Level 200 has been pretty easy for awhile now. I can't remember when our curve was lowered.
And the 200-220 was just … (more)adjusted too. At this point I think it's entirely Zero's unique systems rather than the easy grind.
Since Reboot isn't as popular over in Korea, I think we depend entirely on Korea thinking it is worth it to fix reboot entirely for the sake of GMS. (less)

The list is in order of level. So the low level quests that should be easy to get rid of, and possibly done as quickly as possible as you've been putting them off, are at the top of the … (more)list. I prefer it like this personally. (less)

If your mules are not killing anything then just put 0 as their kills under "Kills per wave party"
The value that shows in "PARTY" will be what they will leech.
Here's an example of a … (more)level 160 leeching off of a level 200 character.
The mob used in the example is Mutant Snail. (Level 162, EXP: 16158)


As far as individual kills go, look at the fields for...
EXP Solo Kill
This is how much EXP you would get killing the same mob without a party
EXP Party Kill
This is how much EXP you will get when you kill something.
Party Leech EXP
This is how much EXP you will get when someone else kills something.
EXP Party Bonus 1
This is how much extra EXP you will get when you kill something (The party bonus exp line)
EXP Party Bonus 2
This is how much extra EXP you will get when someone else kills something. (The party bonus exp line)

I hope that helps clear up any confusion! (less)

Due to personal experience which contradicts the current "Meta" of Maplestory,
I created a handy little spreadsheet to help players decided when it is and isn't viable to grind with a … (more)party.

You can find the spreadsheet >>>here<<<
It is important to note you will have to make your own local copy to use this calculator.

Scroll Down for Images and Examples.

A few things to note about the calculator.
1. The calculator assumes that no one other than you attacks your own mobs.
In practice this will most likely not be true, but it's not that important as the damage you deal only accounts for 20% of the base EXP adjustment.
The other 80% is based on your level vs the party level.
2. The EXP Bonus Field is in %, rather than multiplier.
This means that a 2x coupon by itself would be written as "100" rather than 2.0,
I feel like when adding things like Gold Pots, Holy Symbol, etc, this is easier to use.
3. I have no clue if this will work outside of google sheets or not.
I don't think I've used anything native to google, but a fair word of warning is, I haven't tested it.
4. The Calculator does not stop you from creating an impossible party.
You'll have to make sure no two characters are more than 40 levels apart.
You can look at the box near the top that says "Party is Okay" to make sure you haven't done this.
It won't disregard inactive members though, so be aware of that going in.
5. The Calculator does not factor in reboot bonus base EXP.
Reboot base EXP is calculated differently than regular servers.
Please use the correct values when calculating for reboot worlds!
6. This Calculator does not tell you how much EXP you will actually earn.
There are extra variables that are impossible to simulate without actually going out there and working with your party.
Things such as Elite Mobs, Rune Spawns and Bounty Portals. Ultimately you'll need to do field testing before you'll know for sure.
However I hope more players will be able to see now that grinding in a party doesn't have to be the hell hole that the meta thinks it is.

Enter the Level and EXP Value of your monster here.


Next, you will need to enter in some basic information about the player.
Their level, Number of Mobs Killed when Solo vs When in a Party and if the Member is a cleric or not.
For ease of use, you can also check the last box to include or exclude that member from calculations.


You can see in this example, a party with one cleric and one non cleric, it is worth it to be in the party.


Here's a more extreme example.
In this example you can see that two of the players lose out on EXP.
A certain balance must be kept in order to make sure EXP is still worth it for you.
In this example only an extra 600 mobs are killed. Which is only 30% extra. I believe this example to be reasonable.
This last example is what you will see when opening the spreadsheet for yourself.


I checked multiple times to make sure every calculation was correct, but in case you notice something out of place, please let me know!

Edit 2018-10-13: Fixed a calculation error where bonus exp was applying exp bonuses incorrectly. Added some more clarification to note #6.
Edit 2018-10-15: Fixed a similar calculation error on "Party Bonus 1", Moved 100 kills from Party Member 4 to Party Member 2. (Due to new EXP calculations.)
Edit 2019-4-22: Fixed a calculation error where the final +1 was not being applied to party leech bonus line, resulting in 1 missing EXP per every party kill. (less)